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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:17 am

Congrats to Haruka on her Nebelhorn Trophy Bronze! おめでとうございます! \(^o^)/

http://deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2012/CAT002RS.HTM

Can't get why she still gets really low PCS... scratch

edit: Protocol http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2012/NT2012_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf

Seems she got UR calls on her 3Lz and 3S jumps.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:45 am


her dress for FS~ ppl said she never got her costume wrong and that is so true.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:48 am

roma wrote:
Congrats to Haruka on her Nebelhorn Trophy Bronze! おめでとうございます! \(^o^)/

http://deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2012/CAT002RS.HTM

Can't get why she still gets really low PCS... scratch

edit: Protocol http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2012/NT2012_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf

Seems she got UR calls on her 3Lz and 3S jumps.
I hope someone has filmed her FS! It must have been a fantastic program! cheers Encore
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:08 am


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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:03 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJVeqoFIOH8

i am so happy to see the beautiful skating skills haruka showed here, even more than the landed jumps. sorry super busy time of year so not posting much, but appreciating everybody's posts and updates.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:06 pm

①ディヴェルティメントK.137変ロ長調第2楽章
Divertimento in B flat major, K137 (Salzburg Symphony No. 2)II. Allegro di molto
②ヴァイオリン・ソナタ32番K.376ヘ長調第2楽章
Violin Sonata in F major, K. 376 (374d) II. Andante
③アイネクライネナハトムジークK.525ト長調第4楽章 の順でつないでます
Eine kleine Nachtmusik (Serenade No. 13 for strings in G major), K. 525 IV Rondo: Allegro

No wonder when the person there asked Haruka about her music, she said she didn't know the details LOL

some notes from internet and I can't really find every source.

1. Yuka said somewhere that the way Haruka executed her Lzs and Flips were wrong and if they let her kept doing that, her right foot will get injury due to that again. Sounds like they spent time to correct her 3Lz and 3Flips. Her flips look easy now and she didn't have edge call for Lz now Smile maybe she was a little bit UR this time but let's wait and see.

2. they spent 1/3 of training time working on her skating skills. she really improved a lot and she looks good even in second half of program.

3. you may notice that she changed her 3S-2lo-2t to 3lo-2lo-2t and her 2A-3T is back Smile she still tried to level up her components even she rested for a long time and started late this year due to her injury after 4cc.

4. she wore her FS dress for exhibition and because there was time during ceremony and her FS, she let her hair down and covered her boots:) I know everyone has different taste but I heard about that if you don't use boots cover, that can show your blade more clear. IMO, i think with boots cover may let your legs look fat than without it.





her PCS...i think if she can do her SP right then she will get better PCS in FS because she got 1-2 additional point for each elements from her SP to FS. if she can do her SP good and clean, she can get better scores and FS. she needs to build her reputation since she is not Adelina who was JGPS champion. (of course, Adelina is pretty good at some ways)

on a side note, nothing about Haruka, every time I see Adeline's costume, I start to worry about Mao's (TOT)


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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:26 pm

Haruka got 7 triple jumps in her FS but Adelina and Kaetlyn still scored higher both with 5 triples only. Haruka got 3 UR calls, Kaetlyn got one UR (fall) and an E and Adelina had a fall so all three of them got 4 clean triples each. But the difference in PCS is really big even with that near flawless performance. She deserved higher PCS than what she got.

Kaetlyn Osmond is quite new also, right? I think she turned senior last season and won bronze at Canadian Nationals. She sure got Adelina level PCS already.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:49 pm

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Haruka got 7 triple jumps in her FS but Adelina and Kaetlyn still scored higher both with 5 triples only. Haruka got 3 UR calls, Kaetlyn got one UR (fall) and an E and Adelina had a fall so all three of them got 4 clean triples each. But the difference in PCS is really big even with that near flawless performance. She deserved higher PCS than what she got.

Kaetlyn Osmond is quite new also, right? She sure got Adelina level PCS already.

Katelyn has more base value than Haruka for her elements which means her elements are harder in score point of view. then she got more GOE than Haruka. so judges will value her performance higher than Haruka's. like what you said, Haruka did 7 triples but three of them are UR that also caused her negative GOE and judges thought...she can't do 3S and 3Lz clean.

The other thing is old problem, maybe Katelyn performance with more "impact" when you saw her live. an example from my friends, they said they never like Miki ( i don't know why) but after seeing her live in 4cc 2011, they think Miki is better than Mao and with better present on ice.

sometimes i would like avoid the PCS issue because if I care about that too much, the first thing I need to complain about will be Taka's scores then get frustrated. I can accept that they don't like his style for presentation or other thing but I would never get the SS scores.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:24 am

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4. she wore her FS dress for exhibition and because there was time during ceremony and her FS, she let her hair down and covered her boots:) I know everyone has different taste but I heard about that if you don't use boots cover, that can show your blade more clear. IMO, i think with boots cover may let your legs look fat than without it.

on a side note, nothing about Haruka, every time I see Adeline's costume, I start to worry about Mao's (TOT)

I always thought that tights over boots make the skaters' legs look longer.

To be honest, I always worry about Mao's costumes when TAT is her choreographer, and after seeing Adelina's FP I also worried about Mao's FP, but this has changed a bit since I saw the beginning of her program in recent clip.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:50 pm

http://youtu.be/3h1ZHLFu0Gg Haruka's SP and the other version of FS (from judges view)

apparently she was not familiar with her SP yet, at least not at FS level.
She said she didn't do her SP yet during DOI and you can find some similar movement in her FS and pure imagination Smile
she did her FS first then SP but I think she spent time to change her FS due to ISU rules changed after that...like most of ppl got FS ready earlier.

ETA: about the boots cover, to make your line better is the original purpose so looks longer is right theory.
I am not sure it really helps to get higher scores since lots of top skaters removed that including Miki, Carolina, Akko and Mao.
Then Miki and Carolina won worlds without that so I am not sure about that now.

ETA: bio updated http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010981.htm


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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:02 am

when there was Cup of China, there were Eastern Japanese and Western Japanese Championship
Haruka and Dice won Eastern Japan.
http://www.daito.ac.jp/news/details_6218.html
she wore the jacket from her university for local competition.
http://supodai.seesaa.net/article/300442876.html
protocols
http://www.jsfresults.com/National/2012-2013/fs_j/east/data0203.pdf
http://www.jsfresults.com/National/2012-2013/fs_j/east/data0205.pdf
she got new backup plan...she didn't land her 2A well then she replaced her Lz by 2A+3T Smile
the other good news is she didn't have UR call except the 2A she fall.

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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:07 am

Thanks for the news shikure. But why did Haruka compete there, since she has a GP assignment? Did she have to, to qualify for nationals? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:24 am

zarinaballerina wrote:
Thanks for the news shikure. But why did Haruka compete there, since she has a GP assignment? Did she have to, to qualify for nationals? scratch

She didn't get schedule conflict so is Dice... Mad she participated Eastern Japan Championship last year too because she got 1st and 6st assignment of GPS for both years.
Then she didn't have competition within two weeks and she is not seed for JNC (Yuzuru was third last year so he is seed)~stupid JSF rules.
she needs to participate to qualify national based on rules but right before Eastern Japan (very last min) , I saw a list that they listed her as "no need to compete for qualifying"...

to look at the bright side that she can try her programs again before NHK, and she actually tried a lot of different things here.
she changed her SP to 2A, 3Lo+3T then 3S but she didn't land her 3Lo so became 3S+2T again.

btw, Kumiko sensei was there with her Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:07 am

Stupid rules. Oh well, congrats Haruka. Very Happy

On a sad note, Miu Sato did not even reach the free skate. So, I guess that means she won't go to junior nats and she's done for the season. . .
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:04 am

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Stupid rules. Oh well, congrats Haruka. Very Happy

On a sad note, Miu Sato did not even reach the free skate. So, I guess that means she won't go to junior nats and she's done for the season. . .

so is fumie...she was 11th...
I think Miu Sato should has injury. If my memory is correct that she had fatigue fracture then sort of recovery from that after last Nats. but what she showed in JGP is totally not usual.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:23 am

But... she was 2nd in the SP? Shocked And who won the SP? I can't understand the name using Google Translator... And, the 3S, 3F and the loops would have been probably < in a GP, since she got low GOEs, they were maybe "almost" and we know that international Specialists are always so harsh now with the rotations (just think about Mirai's CoC FS... Sad )
And the scores weren't really inflated: 24.80 and 48 are almost lower than what she received at SA (24.30 and 52)!
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:19 am

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But... she was 2nd in the SP? Shocked And who won the SP? I can't understand the name using Google Translator... And, the 3S, 3F and the loops would have been probably < in a GP, since she got low GOEs, they were maybe "almost" and we know that international Specialists are always so harsh now with the rotations (just think about Mirai's CoC FS... Sad )
And the scores weren't really inflated: 24.80 and 48 are almost lower than what she received at SA (24.30 and 52)!

Yuki Nishino won the SP but I don't think Haruka will be downgraded in international competition since she didn't get any UR call in SA.
I won't worry about Haurka's UR too much and I worry about her SP more than FS.
she has great flow in FS and what she made mistake in SA FS was overturned not UR.
Her problem now is how to deliver a good SP and brings those good impression to her FS.

During interview, she said she was not at her best that she took rest a little bit after SA since they worked too hard.
so they took time to start slower and want to peak at right timing.

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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:40 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxYJ2GsiQDA&feature=player_embedded
Haruka's ex in NHK trophy...back up here
she hit her 2A3T and 3S here Smile she also did a perfect 2A3T in 6 mins practice but it's shame that she didn't make it in program.
but i felt angry after seeing protocol since someone gave her lower than 5 in components.
she hit 3F, 2A (plan 2A3T), 3Lz (fluz, <) ,3S, 3Lo2T2T, 3Lo and fall on final 3S...at least she landed 4 good triples then she got less than 5 in execution?
the program is with great flow than some of programs and she didn't slow down in second half. there were only two significant mistakes, the fluz (almost everyone has) then fall for 3S (come on...even guys like taka and yuzuru fall that too in late of program)
anyway...I hate PCS Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:17 am

stream for competition with GEO block http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sports-sai-tokyo2013-tokyo
ppl in Jpn can watch it for FS tomorrow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kw7vsVRs3A&feature=youtu.be
Haruka's SP today, due to copyright, they broadcast that without music for all skaters Sad
she surprised us again...2A, 3F3T, 3Lo...she skated that almost clean ...may have double for 3T<
but it's first time she skated her SP clean in competition then with 3F3T!!!
and her smile in the end of program was priceless cheers

ETA: www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7IaAWLw28A&feature=youtu.be matched music from other competition



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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:31 am

shikure wrote:
stream for competition with GEO block http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sports-sai-tokyo2013-tokyo
ppl in Jpn can watch it for FS tomorrow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kw7vsVRs3A&feature=youtu.be
Haruka's SP today, due to copyright, they broadcast that without music for all skaters Sad
she surprised us again...2A, 3F3T, 3Lo...she skated that almost clean ...may have double for 3T<
but it's first time she skated her SP clean in competition then with 3F3T!!!
and her smile in the end of program was priceless cheers


Thanks again for the YT link! Thank you!
Disappointing there's no music, but finally Haruka managed to nail her jumps in this pro. I'm so thrilled and happy for her! I love this program and had wanted to see it skated well, and she did so more or less.
I found out she had been suffering a minor injury of some sort this season, and believe that was the main reason she didn't get good results aside from her nerve issues. But she really is a good skater when she's at her best, and surprisingly dynamic with speed and stamina.
I personally wish she'd keep this SP for next season too, cause if she skates it without faults, I think she can achieve real high scores for it (if the judges are fair... Rolling Eyes ). Anyway I so love this pro! Mysterious, exciting a bit sexy but not too sexy; just the right kind of pro for Haruka to challenge at this point. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:38 am

Pochi, thank you too~I wasn't around often due to my job and thanks for all the translation and update. she said she didn't feel she was in bad condition in Nats, actually she landed all jumps she planned in 6mins practice including 3T3T in SP and 2A3T in FS but just can't land it in competition.

for SP, she said she started to practice 3F3T after nationals and ppl said she tried 3Lz3T in practice there. I remembered nagakubo coach once said Haruka can land 3Lz3T in interview early 2011. but Haruka said Lz put more pressure than flip on her right foot.

Haruka just skated her FS almost clean with upgraded version of dress
3F, 2A3T, 3S, 2A (she removed her 3Lz) 3Lo2T2T, 3Lo, 3S2T(so)
58.64 57.52 116.16 total 175.83 1st for senior ladies...(akko didn't do well Sad I start to worry about her)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWmzUgEYNbU&feature=youtu.be

news
http://www.jiji.com/jc/zc?k=201301/2013012800871&g=spo
she stayed in Japan after nats ~
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:25 am

Wonderful skates from Haruka! It's so good to finally see her skate clean. I hope she keeps it up and continue skating those 3-3s.
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:03 pm

some news
http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20130128/fig13012822050002-n1.html
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20130128-1077934.html
http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20130128/fig13012822400004-n1.html
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/e-japan/tokyo23/news/20130129-OYT8T00084.htm


her smile was so gorgeous in /after programs and in kiss&cry, ppl gave her standing ovation for both SP and FS.
you even can catch the smile on her face after landing the 3F3T...like what she used to do after landing her 3Lo all the time.
after FS, ppl even applauded to rush the score Very Happy
but in interview she cried, she said she wanted to turn back the time and performed like this in nats.
she felt regret after nats that she can't show what she is capable to do and felt don't' know what to do after nat.
then she got back to training and started over from practicing timing for taking off for jumps.

those vids without music just show you that she is the skater you can watch without music and remind me how figure skating should be.

ETA: one fact surprises me that she is the only senior ladies in Jpn trying something other 3T3T in competition. and she didn't like 3T3T because she said she is not good at combination jump starting with 3T Smile

FS with music www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN6JRmjcPEY&feature=youtu.be
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:04 am

results of SP http://application.fisg.it/results/3081/SEG176.HTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egei2-KQVog&feature=youtu.be vid of Gardena SP
all jumps were not good Sad but the gap to first place is less than 7 point
wish her best luck tomorrow
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PostSubject: Re: Haruka Imai   Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:17 pm

shikure wrote:
results of SP http://application.fisg.it/results/3081/SEG176.HTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egei2-KQVog&feature=youtu.be vid of Gardena SP
all jumps were not good Sad but the gap to first place is less than 7 point
wish her best luck tomorrow
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