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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:20 am

Mr. Gallagher seriously needs to reconsider his career choice... Sweatdrop There are few things that annoy me more than journalists pulling the facts out of their... backsides, especially when the needed information is readily available online. Suspect His articles used to be quite decent a few years ago, but recently it seems as if he doesn't even care about the facts anymore, he just tries to stir some sensation. Sad thing is, there are people who trust the "professional" articles a bit too much; I've already encountered a few people who believed in Gallagher's previous article and were surprised that Mao participates in the GP series after all. Bad idea!

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Okami, wow, I stand corrected! Thanks, I had no idea Mao landed the 3F-3L combo in 2011, even if it was just in the warm up. I remember seeing her in practice with good 2A-3T though but she never got credit for it in competitions. What do you think her jump layout will be for her SP?

For now, I think 2A or 3A, 3F-2L, 3L. A lot of people seem to think that Mao will skip 3A for now, and, actually, should she want to take a break from it this is probably the best season to do it (no YuNa or Miki, the Russian ladies still too young to go to Worlds and/or get really high PCS).
Frankly speaking it's too difficult to guess Mao's jumping layout, because the practice clips that were aired recently were actually recorded in September, shorty after Mao started to practice in the "on-season" mode. Judging from the Weider clip, the Mao Team was still decideing n the best strategy back the and a lot could have changed depending on how well Mao's training was going on.
Point in case: last season there was a lot of shuffling going on both in SP and the LP depending on how solid Mao's 3F and 2A-3T was. The final layouts weren't quite the same as on the day she debuted her programs. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:56 am

Here's a more researched preview of NHK by PJ Kwong. I do not like the fact that she insists on making predictions as she always seems to jinx the skaters she chooses (and here she chose Mao and Dai), but aside from the sarcastic () comment about Mao's previous coaching situation, she has very nice things to say and seems to have been keeping up with Mao news this off-season, as opposed to our friend Gallagher...

www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/opinion/2011/11/redemption-the-theme-for-nhk-trophy.html
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:03 am

I really don't know what to expect from Mao, but I'm so excited to see her and I hope she kicks butt!

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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:52 pm

chiyori wrote:
Here's a more researched preview of NHK by PJ Kwong. I do not like the fact that she insists on making predictions as she always seems to jinx the skaters she chooses (and here she chose Mao and Dai), but aside from the sarcastic () comment about Mao's previous coaching situation, she has very nice things to say and seems to have been keeping up with Mao news this off-season, as opposed to our friend Gallagher...

www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/opinion/2011/11/redemption-the-theme-for-nhk-trophy.html

Ugh... I hope she doesn't jinx Mao and Dai. Evil or Very Mad I haven't been so fond of PJ Kwong lately. Have any of you seen her rather silly top 10 list for ladies? There's definitely a lot of pressure on Mao. I have faith she is strong enough to rise above it but I'm very nervous!

As for the 3A, I think it is good strategy to not do it in the SP. Consistency is really key this season for Mao. But if they are sticking to the same layout all season, that would mean she won't attempt the 3A in the SP the entire season. I really wonder if Sato could convince Mao to do this. Personally, I hope Sato succeeds because this is smart strategy and maybe with less focus on the 3A, people and judges for that matter can finally appreciate Mao for her beautiful skating.
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:23 pm

aoi88 wrote:
Ugh... I hope she doesn't jinx Mao and Dai. Evil or Very Mad I haven't been so fond of PJ Kwong lately. Have any of you seen her rather silly top 10 list for ladies? There's definitely a lot of pressure on Mao. I have faith she is strong enough to rise above it but I'm very nervous!

Yes, I've seen it. Quite ridiculous. She's entitled to her opinion, but she put Sarah Hughes in the Top 5. Faint2

She always seemed to be in favor of Mao in her predictions and commentating so I guess I was a little surprised that she didn't make any mention of her. I'm nervous too, though I'm also extremely excited. Let's all send positive thoughts Arrow Mao!

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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:40 pm

does anyone know if and when nhk trophy will be broadcasted on nbc?
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:02 pm

chiyori wrote:
Here's a more researched preview of NHK by PJ Kwong. I do not like the fact that she insists on making predictions as she always seems to jinx the skaters she chooses (and here she chose Mao and Dai), but aside from the sarcastic () comment about Mao's previous coaching situation, she has very nice things to say and seems to have been keeping up with Mao news this off-season, as opposed to our friend Gallagher...

www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/opinion/2011/11/redemption-the-theme-for-nhk-trophy.html

Is it the same person who jinxed last year? Oh gosh.
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:29 pm

Mao_Asada_sunrise wrote:
chiyori wrote:
Here's a more researched preview of NHK by PJ Kwong. I do not like the fact that she insists on making predictions as she always seems to jinx the skaters she chooses (and here she chose Mao and Dai), but aside from the sarcastic () comment about Mao's previous coaching situation, she has very nice things to say and seems to have been keeping up with Mao news this off-season, as opposed to our friend Gallagher...

www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/opinion/2011/11/redemption-the-theme-for-nhk-trophy.html

Is it the same person who jinxed last year? Oh gosh.

hehe I don't know if she did it last year but PJ has a bit of a reputation on various forums. It's been known that her predictions rarely come true so most people say she jinxes the skaters. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:03 pm

swan wrote:
does anyone know if and when nhk trophy will be broadcasted on nbc?

Sunday 11/13 from 2-4 pm eastern. Knowing NBC, this is only the mens and ladies LP, with maybe a single SP or ice dance thrown in. Rolling Eyes

Here's a link from icenetwork with the US TV schedule for the season (NBC and Universal Sports):
http://web.icenetwork.com/events/schedule.jsp?mode=tv
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:13 pm

chiyori wrote:
Mao_Asada_sunrise wrote:
chiyori wrote:
Here's a more researched preview of NHK by PJ Kwong. I do not like the fact that she insists on making predictions as she always seems to jinx the skaters she chooses (and here she chose Mao and Dai), but aside from the sarcastic () comment about Mao's previous coaching situation, she has very nice things to say and seems to have been keeping up with Mao news this off-season, as opposed to our friend Gallagher...

www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/opinion/2011/11/redemption-the-theme-for-nhk-trophy.html

Is it the same person who jinxed last year? Oh gosh.

hehe I don't know if she did it last year but PJ has a bit of a reputation on various forums. It's been known that her predictions rarely come true so most people say she jinxes the skaters. Wink

Oh gosh. Maybe she just shouldn't predict at all!
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:31 pm

The practice sessions already started. Thanks to genki from goldenskate for the link to live reports: http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/channe...r/482&manual=1 (in japanese)

I don't understand it but I put it in the google translate so it's sort of readable. Also, CARA is translating it in the practice reports thread on goldenskate:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?35301-Practice-Reports-NHK-Trophy&p=590855&posted=1#post590855
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:48 pm

http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/channel/live/show/winter/483
this one is for ladies' practice which will be started 16:20pm, Japan time

I watched the live update for men practice, and I am very nervous about Taka's status Sad
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:03 pm

Can't wait for Mao!! I don't like this version of Scheherazade,
really hope it will be well arranged.

Though NHK Trophy is like all-star event, there is one Japanese
lady unknown. It is Ishikawa. Who is she? What is so exciting is
that her FS is choreographed by Shizuka Arakawa. That is what
I am so interested in too.

Source :
http://www.plus-blog.sportsnavi.com/y-love/article/182
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:10 pm

shikure wrote:
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/channel/live/show/winter/483
this one is for ladies' practice which will be started 16:20pm, Japan time

I watched the live update for men practice, and I am very nervous about Taka's status Sad


I know, I'm nervous for him too. His practice seems to go not too well.

And thanks a lot for ladies link!!
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:29 pm

BowbowDaijin wrote:
Can't wait for Mao!! I don't like this version of Scheherazade,
really hope it will be well arranged.

Though NHK Trophy is like all-star event, there is one Japanese
lady unknown. It is Ishikawa. Who is she? What is so exciting is
that her FS is choreographed by Shizuka Arakawa. That is what
I am so interested in too.

Source :
http://www.plus-blog.sportsnavi.com/y-love/article/182

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%9F%B3%E5%B7%9D%E7%BF%94%E5%AD%90 Japanese wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoko_Ishikawa English

Basically, she is also under Coach Sato team, and the most interesting thing is she is also tall female skater like Shizuka.
her SP is from Kenji Miyamoto.
I think she gets two good programs and hope she can do both programs justice.
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:57 pm

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/e-japan/hokkaido/news/20111110-OYT8T00760.htm?from=tw

I can't wait!!!
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:00 am

Anybody know of any live streams that are not IceNetwork or Universal Sports?
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:23 am

well try this one Спорт 2 - смотреть ТВ онлайн

they should show NHK, but i would diffinitly buy universal sport if I were you the coverage and stream is much better, and it isn't that expensive..
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:38 am

Ladies practice has started... Mao is in the second group.
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:40 am

any practice reports please i want to know if her adding speed has in ayway affected her jumps
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:06 am

Mao is up 3rd in music rotation. She's gonna use her LP music. She did a wally and landed a loop.

1)Ashley's music already started. She is the only one using SP music for this session.
2)Agnes
3)Mao
4)Shoko
5)Akiko

Mao is up! Her starting pose is different from last seasons. She popped her 3A attempt. She nailed her 2 flip combos. Her layout seems to be the same from last season.

So I guess it's:

3A
3F+2Lo
3Lz
2A+3T
3F+2Lo+2Lo
3S
3Lo


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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:18 am

what about the sp layout?


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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:20 am

So she will be going for the 3A in the LP. I'm not so sure why I am surprised about it though Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:22 am

@ballerinamao

We don't know that yet. I think they were commenting about her LP.
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PostSubject: Re: NHK Trophy 2011   Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:27 am

I hope they'll decide against 3A in the sp.
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