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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:05 am

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Anyone knows the official practice hours?
Here is the official schedule: http://www.isuresults.com/events/FC2012_ColouredTimeSchedule.pdf
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The first ladies practice is today! Maybe we will learn whether Mao is there or not.

I trust that Mao and her team know what they are doing Smile She is a professional athlete after all and knows her body best. Her aim is to perform the best possible, so her strategy must have been thought over a lot. So I agree with polosatik, let's not panic and concentrate on cheering for Mao Cheering

Another thought though: since Taka is in the States too, maybe they all (Taka, Mao and the Satos) went together? And Mao is in the USA for a couple of days already?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:18 am

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Another thought though: since Taka is in the States too, maybe they all (Taka, Mao and the Satos) went together? And Mao is in the USA for a couple of days already?

I do hope that's the case!

But Takahiko just finished entering (and winning, of course) the Japan Sports Association FS Competition on the 30th of last month. Is he already in the States?

So, I'll say it again...Where is everybody right now!!!!!?????
It's as if the whole Japanese team is missing! Did they get lost in the Bermuda Triangle or something? scratch

Found another article on 4CC in Japanese:
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20120207-00000093-spnannex-spo
But like the other one, it only mentions that Mao, Kanako and Haruka will be entering the ladies competition in 4CC soon, and that Mao's 3A is assumed to be 'almost completed', and that she's one of the stongest of candidates to win in this competition. Boring article, I have to say... Rolling Eyes

We do have another day or so till official practice, and once that starts and should Mao be there, the news articles must start being uploaded. But usually the Japanese press try to catch and interview Mao when she leaving the airport for a competition, or when she arrives in the competition holding country's airport. So, it's either Mao hasn't left Japan yet (same for Dai and Kanako who're both popular amongst the press), or...even the press has no clue where our 4CC entering skaters are right now. It's very strange this time cause Dai at least, usually arrives in the competition holding country early, and we'd get news on him before we have anything on Mao. But this time, there's absolutely nothing even about Dai! I think maybe our skating Fed might be keeping the press away from all Japanese skaters for some reason. Faint2

Well, we'll just have to wait... Yep, Sadly

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:52 am

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So, I'll say it again...Where is everybody right now!!!!!?????
It's as if the whole Japanese team is missing! Did they get lost in the Bermuda Triangle or something? scratch

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We do have another day or so till official practice, and once that starts and should Mao be there, the news articles must start being uploaded. But usually the Japanese press try to catch and interview Mao when she leaving the airport for a competition, or when she arrives in the competition holding country's airport. So, it's either Mao hasn't left Japan yet (same for Dai and Kanako who're both popular amongst the press), or...even the press has no clue where our 4CC entering skaters are right now. It's very strange this time cause Dai at least, usually arrives in the competition holding country early, and we'd get news on him before we have anything on Mao. But this time, there's absolutely nothing even about Dai! I think maybe our skating Fed might be keeping the press away from all Japanese skaters for some reason. Faint2

Well, we'll just have to wait... Yep, Sadly

Haha, same here Pochi. I've been wondering exactly the same thing where are they now!? Suspect Where is Dai-chan now?
Japanese press may not care about Tatuki and Mura, but it was reported by Icenetwork that Kanako was interviewed at the airport. But, as of now there is no news article about her arrival in the States by Japanese media. None. confused And on top of that, the posted link by Icenetwork in its tweet does not exist anymore. scratch You may guessed right, Pochi. It may be tactics or something by JFS, or Japanese media has run out of resources to send reporters out there. geek
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:12 am

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It may be tactics or something by JFS, or Japanese media has run out of resources to send reporters out there. geek

Yep! You might be right linglang...there's been enormous amount of news concerning baseball here for the past few days, and esp today. All about new coaches and managers for pro baseball teams within Japan. They're not even writing about any games cause it isn't even baseball season, but it seems most sport newspapers have been sending their reporters to baseball training grounds...so, running out of resources in that sense, maybe so! Rolling Eyes

ETA:To folks who joined the forum while I've been absent for a while...the thing on Mao's shoulder in my new avatar is not an egg! Hell, no!

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:34 am

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ETA:To folks who joined the forum while I've been absent for a while...the thing on Mao's shoulder in my new avatar is not an egg! Hell, no!
OMG Pochi!! Laugh Laugh
I love your avatar! You are awesome! lol! hahahaha I can't stop laughing!!
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:36 am

For those who can watch Japanese TV, Fuji's Sporto just announced that they will show Shizuka interviewing Mao on tomorrow's sporto. They also said it is -8deg in Colorado.

Let's be patient. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:42 am

PochinkoPotanko wrote:
linglang wrote:
It may be tactics or something by JFS, or Japanese media has run out of resources to send reporters out there. geek

Yep! You might be right linglang...there's been enormous amount of news concerning baseball here for the past few days, and esp today. All about new coaches and managers for pro baseball teams within Japan. They're not even writing about any games cause it isn't even baseball season, but it seems most sport newspapers have been sending their reporters to baseball training grounds...so, running out of resources in that sense, maybe so! Rolling Eyes

ETA:To folks who joined the forum while I've been absent for a while...the thing on Mao's shoulder in my new avatar is not an egg! Hell, no!

Yes, Pochi, I knew it's potato !

Mao leaving early morning tomorrow maybe ?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:50 am

It's official practice day here in the Springs. I think she is already here, just no news of her yet. And yes, it's below freezing (quite normal, in all honesty) and snowing quite hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:06 am

Here's a preview of the Ladies competition:
http://fromtheboards.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/on-to-the-springs-four-continents-ladies-preview/
Yeah, I know, we don't really like these previews at all but I thought I should post it because at to me it gaves the feeling that this are at least some news... Sweatdrop

Sooo excited to see Mao skate!!! Happy dance
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:13 pm

josling thanx for the link!

I can't wait to see or hear some official news about Mao. I hope she'll have an amazing competition!

GO MAO! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:43 pm

not Mao but at least we have prove that Kanako was there LOL
http://youtu.be/dRPU3TuQaZ8
Mao left for states yesterday (Japan Time)
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20120208-OHT1T00001.htm

ETA:
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20120208-900847.html news just released
she arrived and said want to show what she can do there. feel like she didn't decide put 3A or not. since her comments is still "slowly going to right direction but if can do that will be good"
http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/2012/02/08/0004800104.shtml
http://www.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/sports/349261.html
http://mainichi.jp/enta/sports/news/20120208k0000e050142000c.html
(lovely hat)

and I saw on twitter today that judge Shin AMANO (天野真) will be in men's event Sad

now, my question is where is Haruka? Mura ? and Machida ?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:54 pm

shikure wrote:
not Mao but at least we have prove that Kanako was there LOL
http://youtu.be/dRPU3TuQaZ8
Mao left for states yesterday (Japan Time)
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20120208-OHT1T00001.htm

ETA:
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20120208-900847.html news just released
she arrived and said want to show what she can do there. feel like she didn't decide put 3A or not. since her comments is still "slowly going to right direction but if can do that will be good"
http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/2012/02/08/0004800104.shtml
http://www.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/sports/349261.html
http://mainichi.jp/enta/sports/news/20120208k0000e050142000c.html
(lovely hat)

and I saw on twitter today that judge Shin AMANO (天野真) will be in men's event Sad
Thanks for the news! Please tell me Shin Amano will NOT be in the ladies event....
now, my question is where is Haruka? Mura ? and Machida ?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:09 am

Shin Amano will NOT be in the ladies event. The Technical Specialist is Ms. Pirjo UIMONEN and the Assistant Technical Specialist Ms. Robyn BURLEY, according to ISU:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/fc2012/SEG003OF.HTM

Shin Amano will be Assistant Technical Specialist in the men's event only.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:26 am

Whoa, something went very wrong with my last post, but Lady_in_black somehow found my question and answered it! Thank you! Thank goodness Shin Amano won't be in the ladies event!
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:45 am

Lady_in_black wrote:
Shin Amano will NOT be in the ladies event. The Technical Specialist is Ms. Pirjo UIMONEN and the Assistant Technical Specialist Ms. Robyn BURLEY, according to ISU:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/fc2012/SEG003OF.HTM

Shin Amano will be Assistant Technical Specialist in the men's event only.

thanks for lady_in_black.
In addition, i also saw ppl crying about Ms. Pirjo UIMONEN in ladies' event, but I am not familar with her.
then I google her then found out she is also notoriouss for "downgrading jumps", but I don't know how true that is.
but the Amano is very notorious being cruel to Japanese skaters, I heard about him from time to time even in my local forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:25 am

I really hate Amano, what he did with Mao and Kana jumps at WC 2011 Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:13 am

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I really hate Amano, what he did with Mao and Kana jumps at WC 2011 Evil or Very Mad

I know! That made me angry, too! Based on the outcome, it was obvious that there were categories, unless it's a mere coincidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:14 am

I wonder if sending a petition to jsf so that Amano will never be allowed to judge any competition anymore could work. (are judges sent by their country's federation?)
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:13 am

"Mao's main competition will come from compatriot Kanako Murakami and newly crowned U.S. champion Ashley Wagner."

what about Akiko? She's not competing?
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:22 am

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"Mao's main competition will come from compatriot Kanako Murakami and newly crowned U.S. champion Ashley Wagner."

what about Akiko? She's not competing?

no, JSF played the game and both of sliver medalist of Japan (Akko and Taka) are not on the list this year.

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:37 am

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I really hate Amano, what he did with Mao and Kana jumps at WC 2011 Evil or Very Mad

I know! That made me angry, too! Based on the outcome, it was obvious that there were categories, unless it's a mere coincidence.

Ditto! In his case, I hate to have to say it, but he's being a bully on purpose. And he only does it mostly to skaters who showed special talent since they were young; the ones people call geniuses. It's been said that he called the new scoring system (after the 6.0 days) 'A system which non-geniuses can win too', and at this point I think that's what he really wants to happen in every competition. He himself used to be a single and pair skater in the 90's, and aside from winning Nats once as a single skater and once as pairs, his competing career wasn't all that great. He went to Worlds the year he won Nats, but ended up in 28th place as a single skater. Went to Olys the year he won Nats as pairs, but ended up in 20th place. He entered NHK Cup 3 times as a single skater, and his best rank was 9th, and when he entered as pairs only once in NHK Cup he was ranked 8th. He started pairs in the last season of his career, and in Japanese Wiki it says that he failed most of the lifts and jumps in Olys, he gave up and retired. So my guess is, he didn't do so good in singles, so decided to try pairs, but failed from the start and dropped out. He definitely wasn't a genius type skater, and that's probabaly why he hates those who are IMO. Mad

Btw, he looks like this...



He's a 38yr old envious Salieri, I suppose... Rolling Eyes
And FIY, this photo is from Yukari's fan blog ( http://goyukarin.exblog.jp/6790189/ )...yes, Amano is smiling happily with Yukari and Sato by his side! I guess he liked Yukari alot since she used to say 'I'm no genius type skater, all I can do is practice' several times to the press during her competing days. And if Amano had a good relationship with Sato...no wonder he's not doing tech specialist for ladies in 4CC! Not only Sato is coaching Mao now, but his daughter is coaching Haruka, too! Too sweet!

dangerous_angel_face wrote:
I wonder if sending a petition to jsf so that Amano will never be allowed to judge any competition anymore could work. (are judges sent by their country's federation?)

I actually believe that many have done that already, and maybe that's why he's only going to be assistant tech specialist in mens this time. And I'm not sure where he lives right now, but at least for a while he used to live in Canada. So, I'm eager to see how he'll be judging Pattie's techs. Laughing Amano should be very strict to Pattie too though, cause even with his big mouth, Pattie is a natural born skater with the best edges of the world and genius considering how he achieved his 4T so quickly. If Amano is sweet on Pattie, it won't fit his pattern which will probabaly cost him his 'serial killer' of figure skating judgement award! Who, me?

ETA: And okay...now we know where everybody is. But arriving on the 7th!? Well, I hope to god that Mao and Dai decided to do so with some brilliant plan... Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:53 am

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Shin Amano will NOT be in the ladies event. The Technical Specialist is Ms. Pirjo UIMONEN and the Assistant Technical Specialist Ms. Robyn BURLEY, according to ISU:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/fc2012/SEG003OF.HTM

Shin Amano will be Assistant Technical Specialist in the men's event only.

Confetti That's great news. I can't even begin to tell you how much I HATE THIS MAN! I never heard of Ms. Uimonen, but if she tends to downgrade jumps, I hope she's fair and she'll be strict with everyone and not just with certain skaters, like Amano.

I still don't understand what Amano was smoking at 2011 worlds. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:58 am

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I still don't understand what Amano was smoking at 2011 worlds. Evil or Very Mad
if only I had his photo then Twisted Evil he would be hurt for sure Fried
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents (4CC) 2012 - Colorado Springs   Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:37 am

polosatik wrote:
zarinaballerina wrote:


I still don't understand what Amano was smoking at 2011 worlds. Evil or Very Mad
if only I had his photo then Twisted Evil he would be hurt for sure Fried

While I'm not a violent person, in this case you would have my full support. Twisted Evil
When I saw his pic I couldn't believe this was him! I always imagined him as a bitter old man. I don't get his "hatred" toward japanese skaters, I mean hello, he's japanese for God's sake. If you're going to be biased, then help japanese skaters, don't punish them! This man has issues...
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