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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:38 am

Yes!! 122! Cheering This is the kind of program she needs: it's the first time since 2008 that she starts the season with a good program, right? In 2009 (JO) she didn't skate really well, in 2010 we all remember the disastrous GP, and then last year her SP from NHK was shaky, but this year it's different! I think her confidence will be a lot higher than a year ago!
I want to watch the videos!
I think she got the "e" in the lutz and a couple of UR 2Los, that's why she scored lower than Wagner, I believe. Any news about the exact TES and PCS?
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:41 am

The score that accepted as Season Best (SB) or Personal Best (PB) is
counted from only every ISU competition which are Grand Prix series,
European or 4 Continents Championship, World Championship and
World Trophy. May be smaller competition but also held by ISU like
Finlandia and Nebelhorn (not sure the exact name) will be counted too.

So, score at Japan Open or National Championship will be not counted.
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:45 am

zarinaballerina wrote:
BowbowDaijin wrote:
ฺีBut because this is not ISU competition, so I don't expect that this score will be
Mao's standard score for this season. Not only Mao, Wagner also received more
low score if it is Grand Prix series competitions
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the scores at this competition count or is it only at grand prix? For example when skaters will compete at gp will their season best be announced (score from JO) or will season best start at gp? scratch I know scores at world team trophy count. This is confusing. Whirly

I have to see the program first, but I think 125 points could be Mao's standard score if she skates with minor mistakes.
I think Ashley is going to be overscored at SA to be honest, SA is the same as SC they tend to be very generous to their own skaters. Just remember this year's 4CC. Ashley did not deserve 192 points.
Or when Czisny beat kostner at SA 2011, when it was clear that Caro deserved to win... However, Mao's standard without 3A and 3-3 can be around 125, she has to focus on the PCS and the quality of the elements! Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:53 am

Thanks for the info BowbowDaijin.

Mao2012 wrote:
I think she got the "e" in the lutz and a couple of UR 2Los, that's why she scored lower than Wagner, I believe. Any news about the exact TES and PCS?

This is why I don't like it that she puts loops in combinations instead of toeloops. Tech specialist love to downgrade loops.

According to a poster at FSU
Mao:TES 53.97 PCS 68.07
Ashley: 57.64 PCS 65.93
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:56 am

I think even without the 3A or 3-3 with a 7 tripple program, and her other elements done nicely, she should easily break the 130
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:07 am

According to a poster at FSU
Mao:TES 53.97 PCS 68.07
Ashley: 57.64 PCS 65.93[/quote]
53.97 is really low for an almost clean FS... The protocol is surely full of < and "e"!!
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:09 am

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I think even without the 3A or 3-3 with a 7 tripple program, and her other elements done nicely, she should easily break the 130

Well it is possible - But it won't be easy at all! If she avoids her 3A or difficult combo - She'll lose points on SS (specially if her competitors are landing 3-3's) - Plus Mao usually needs to strive harder than skaters who have high GOE scores on individual jumps...Sad
I mean if she landed her 2a-3t - She'd reach 126 at best -
She might need her 3A or a 3-3 to reach an easy 130!

That said - This is just her first compet - and it was so much better than the previous JO she was in - Clean and confident - Congrats to her Smile
Her costume reminded me of the one she wore in the 2007 GPF! Beautiful Love Hearts
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:27 am

knowing Mao she will most likely change her layout again later in the season, but I really like her current layout,I also like the fact that she starts her program with 3lo and may put the 3A in the middle of the program later on! loved the placement of it when seeing her in practice! now i just hope the video's will be loaded soon, i am really really soo curious and excitet to see her new program!
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:53 am

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ballerinamao wrote:
I think even without the 3A or 3-3 with a 7 tripple program, and her other elements done nicely, she should easily break the 130

Well it is possible - But it won't be easy at all! If she avoids her 3A or difficult combo - She'll lose points on SS (specially if her competitors are landing 3-3's) - Plus Mao usually needs to strive harder than skaters who have high GOE scores on individual jumps...Sad
I mean if she landed her 2a-3t - She'd reach 126 at best -
She might need her 3A or a 3-3 to reach an easy 130!

That said - This is just her first compet - and it was so much better than the previous JO she was in - Clean and confident - Congrats to her Smile
Her costume reminded me of the one she wore in the 2007 GPF! Beautiful Love Hearts

At this point, I would want to think that Mao could only get better. Ashley's 2 double axels helped her a lot this JO, but reputation was also a big factor methinks.

Besides, although this may be the best we've seen from Mao in a very long time, this is certainly not the best she could be. Given enough time to work on her program and truly master it, I'm sure she'll blow the competition away. She just needs consistency.
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:03 am

Any videos available yet? I can't wait to see it! Dance
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:11 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8AjG4VKyTA

Found this one. Hope high quality clip will be posted later. Dance

Just watched it.
Speechless. Gorgeous, wonderful, splendid program!!! Love Hearts Love Hearts Love Hearts
I do love choreo, costume and Mao skating to it.
She is back!! Her jump are fantastic, timing and landing, although I think 3z was inside edge at takeoff.
Step sequence and choreo sequence were fabulous!!!
I'm so happy for Mao. Thank you TAT & Mao!!! cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:23 am

linglang wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8AjG4VKyTA

Found this one. Hope high quality clip will be posted later. Dance

Just watched it.
Speechless. Gorgeous, wonderful, splendid program!!! Love Hearts Love Hearts Love Hearts
I do love choreo, costume and Mao skating to it.
She is back!! Her jump are fantastic, timing and landing, although I think 3z was inside edge at takeoff.
Step sequence and choreo sequence were fabulous!!!
I'm so happy for Mao. Thank you TAT & Mao!!! cheers cheers cheers

Thank you!!! Worship Ladies and gentlemen SHE'S BACK!!! cheers Dance Rockstar Swoon

I'm crying right now. I love this program, with more practice she'll be more comfortable and then it's going to be a masterpiece that'll blown everyone away. Whatever she was doing in Budapest it worked!
TAT i'm sorry I doubted you!
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:29 am

Thanks for the uploader, it is in my iphone now.
I really like to see it a 100 times. Good luck that
Japan's TV is digital, even zooming video still has
a good quality than Color TV in some countries.

I love the ending
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:31 am

linglang Thank you so much, I love it Worship And she finally looks like she did many years ago - fit and strong, I missed this Mao so much. And the dress is beautiful, I am happy about everything in this program.
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:41 am

thankyouu linglang!! im in love with this program, the costume choreography etc! go TAT! I think this is the first time i'v seen this much choreography (moves) in any of her programs, i got teary and sweaty at the end affraid

she does look like she gained some weight, i think i noticed it the most in her leg area, the atmosphere kind of reminded me of 2007 japan open!

is it just or me or did she rush one of the spins? (not enough revolutions) is that why they didn't count it?

other than that im glad shes back ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:41 am

I love it a lot even this early in the season when she still hasn't even mastered it yet. it's beautiful! Perfect for our ballerina on ice! Music cuts, choreo and even the costume! I'm gonna watch it again and again now even if it's not in HD yet. Wub
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:54 am

I've watched it four times and cannot stop it.
Same as zarinaballerina I'm crying because the program is so good and she skates just beautiful.
Thinking about what she's been through, I cannot stop my tears Bawling
Her hard work, persistence and patience are finally paying off.
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:54 am

for some reason that youtube link doesn't work on my computer, someone help mei want to watch Mao new fs
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:55 am

I can't stop watching! I love this program already. I think she needs to work on her speed and transitions, but otherwise everything is good. I can't wait until Mao completely masters this program!

(I'm sorry I can't find enough words to express how happy I am!)
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:09 am

[quote="Ken Himura"]Love it! Tears of happiness Confetti Thanks for the link Thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:10 am

Maosterpiece! Wub Swoon Faint2 This is the competitive program I've been hoping to see from the Mao & TAT collaboration! Yep! I didn't even notice the elements when I watched it the first time, everything flowed so well. Love Hearts

To those who were worried about low-ish TES - apparently one of Mao's spins didn't count (0 points) and from watching the video I'm pretty sure the 2L-2L got <<, and 3F was a bit iffy as well (which actually caused the loops to go wonky). There was a lot of steps before the combo and I think Mao lost too much speed and lost the timing.

Without those mistakes she'd win by a big margin! Thumbs up!




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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:12 am

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the scores at this competition count or is it only at grand prix? For example when skaters will compete at gp will their season best be announced (score from JO) or will season best start at gp? scratch I know scores at world team trophy count. This is confusing. Whirly

WTT is ISU competition, JO isn't so it doesn't count. At the beginning the score from first GP competiton will be her season best.
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:24 am

ballerinamao wrote:
for some reason that youtube link doesn't work on my computer, someone help mei want to watch Mao new fs

I upploaded it here: http://filecloud.io/qyolmv86
I hope the link works. geek

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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:34 am

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Maosterpiece! Wub Swoon Faint2 This is the competitive program I've been hoping to see from the Mao & TAT collaboration! Yep! I didn't even notice the elements when I watched it the first time, everything flowed so well. Love Hearts

To those who were worried about low-ish TES - apparently one of Mao's spins didn't count (0 points) and from watching the video I'm pretty sure the 2L-2L got <<, and 3F was a bit iffy as well (which actually caused the loops to go wonky). There was a lot of steps before the combo and I think Mao lost too much speed and lost the timing.

Without those mistakes she'd win by a big margin! Thumbs up!


And to me 2A looks two footed. So when you add all this up (even though this was JO and the scores were a bit inflated) she's going to score very well with swan lake. cheers And when she adds the difficulty and gets more practise with her LP... Swoon I can't wait. Happy dance
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PostSubject: Re: Japan Open 2012   Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:03 am

cheers Panic! Swoon OMG I LOVE this program! I love the speed, the quick steps and it's jammed packed with transitions and interesting stuff! The speed on the choreo sq at the is very good and can only get better. Go Mao!

Plus, Mao looks so good! The weight and muscle... I think she's probably about back to where she was in 2007-2008, plus the added strength of a couple more years. The jumps she did land cleanly where just spectacular, high and floating... god, that first 3L...

When her music choice came out, people on FSU or GS were talking about how it would get compared to Ashley's (lol what the hell... it was a good program, but it was certainly not legendary, nor is the skater, even though I do like her) and to Sasha's (that's more like it). But I don't think it will. It blows Ashley's program out of the water and it's completely different from Sasha's.

Now I can't wait to see this in better quality and I will be a real pain 'til COC because I SO want to see what Mao can do with this program with a bit more mileage!

Actually, her dress reminds me of a cross between both her dresses from the 07-08 GP, the black and white one, and the bird one. I love it. And both of Mao's SP dresses from that season were TAT creations, so she CAN do good. If she designed this again, we have proof! Many Hearts

And wow, Taka-chan sure looks handsome in those pictures! Yep! Too sweet!
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