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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:54 pm

live broadcast for official SP practice
layout 2A, 3F2lo, 3Lo only 2A in first half
she wore the orange old dress she wore lately in shows. (CaOI ending)

the opening pose reminds me Taka's take five opening but her arms are around waist


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:55 pm

TV Asahi showed Mao's SP run through just before.
She did 2A, 3F-2l and popped 3L, didn't do any of spins.
She was in orange/silver costume, which I assume this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_yFiSEWnk
I'm sure a clip will be on YT soon.
The program ended with step sequence.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:02 pm

Yay! I love that costume! I've seen it on her at DOI a few years ago as well... Wasn't it a rejected caprice dress? Anyway, love the bold color AND the back!! Mao really stood out in the CaOI final!
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:07 pm

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Agree. Mao will need to be very clean and confident during her SP this afternoon. Julia rarely botches her jumps. With a flawed 3-3 combo (-1.05 GOE) she still scored 64+ in Finlandia. If Mao uses the same jump content she used first half of last season, the highest she got for a clean program was 64+ at CoR (excluding the 65+ at JNats). She has to skate clean to improve her PCS throughout the season. Even newbies score massive PCS when they skate clean now unlike before when the veterans have the PCS cushion against the jumping newbies. Kiira scored 69+ with a 3-3 combo for that beautiful SP at Finlandia. I want everyone to skate clean so that we'll see how Mao will be placed if she also skates clean and what else she needs to do to be placed on top this season.

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Saw this link in GS about CoC entries and streaming. Might help us find some suitable streams here so that we can watch later.

http://hotbladeshotpassion.blogspot.ca/2012/10/cup-of-china-2012-streaming-and-entries.html

off topic, but does anyone else think that david wilson is recycling his choreography just as much as lori these days? kiira has a wonderful sp, but it looks too similar to yu-na, min-jeong, christina gao, plus anyone else he choreographed these "pretty lovely-esque" type programs.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:07 pm

Thanks for the news guys, I can't wait to watch Mao's SP Dance I love the orange and silver dress Love Hearts
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:20 pm

JL did 3t3t and 3f during run-through.
Zijun Li also planned 3t3t and 3f
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:27 pm

hmm... looks like mao is in trouble if these other girls are doing triple triple attempts. who knows, this may be zijun's breakthrough season and where else is better for her to start than cup of china?
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:28 pm

linglang wrote:
TV Asahi showed Mao's SP run through just before.
She did 2A, 3F-2l and popped 3L, didn't do any of spins.
She was in orange/silver costume, which I assume this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_yFiSEWnk
I'm sure a clip will be on YT soon.
The program ended with step sequence.

Do we have a full clip of Mao's caprice skated in this costume? I'm liking the orange and silver, too. Backless and sleeveless Thumbs up!

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off topic, but does anyone else think that david wilson is recycling his choreography just as much as lori these days? kiira has a wonderful sp, but it looks too similar to yu-na, min-jeong, christina gao, plus anyone else he choreographed these "pretty lovely-esque" type programs.

It would seem even these choreographers run out of news ideas, too. Or maybe the newer / creative ones get reserved for their best clients?
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:38 pm

i love the design of the orange and silver dress. the neon orange color didn't match as well with caprice as did the fuschia and black, but it was still a fitting dress for that program. i can't wait to see how well (or not well) it will match with her new short program.

zijun's triple triple is starting to get me worried. i mean, this is the grand prix season. judges are judges and they aren't afraid to pull another move like with kaetlyn osmond in skate canada!
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:06 pm

I remember that dress! I loved that one, and I tried finding pictures of it a while back with no luck. I'm surprised to see Mao recycle a dress, cause I don't think she's ever done that. Maybe she really liked it, and has always wanted to get more use out of it.

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:41 pm

I think Lori has helped Mao get a new dress for her SP as usual.
As shikure said, she changed her SP costume a week before the game.
So it may be that she had found something wrong with it and had to use this one instead???






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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:43 pm

mao looks so thin now compared to when she wore that dress before Depressed Crying
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:44 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0JZIsOMvI&feature=channel&list=UL

low quality video

She's sooooooooooo cute!! Razz

She looks tired than usual though silent

Hope to see her smile at the end of CoC. Cheering Cheering Cheering


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:45 pm

linglang, you are so great!
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:50 pm

i hope that she doesn't compete with that free ponytail. it makes her seem so unfinished. i prefer hair to be up!
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:05 am

i remember mao competing in cup of china during her debut season (05-06) for seniors. she also wore a ponytail and an orange dress for her carmen sp. maybe she thought that it will bring her good luck to compete in the same color. Smile hope she will have a good sp later...

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:10 am

linglang wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0JZIsOMvI&feature=channel&list=UL

low quality video

She's sooooooooooo cute!! Razz

She looks tired than usual though silent

Hope to see her smile at the end of CoC. Cheering Cheering Cheering

Thank you so much linglang Thank you!

I like her ponytail, I think it matches the music and looks cool Yep!


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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:13 am

Come on Mao, add a 3-3 into your program and watch how that lifts your score and confidence!

I'm not sure how our beloved Mao can keep up with all these other skaters doing 3-3's....but here's wishing her the best of luck for her next skate. Go Mao!
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:19 am

that triple flip double loop is looking pretty good. i'm afraid of making that double a triple, though. more likely than not she will get a UR mark.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:25 am

Does anyone know why Mao is reluctant to add a 3Toe at the end of her combinations, if she was going for a 3-3?

It appears that a 3T doesn't attract the UR and downgrade calls as often as the the Loop or Flip might, and this might help her.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:49 am

Things don't work as if you want something then you can definitely get that...We always ask why doesn't Mao do this why doesn't Mao do that. Do we really think she is a superwoman capable of doing anything?
As for x3t combo, just look at Mao's success rate at 2A3T. Then I think you can get a clear answer why she doesn't do 3t3t or 3f3t.
What Mao needs right now is not high difficulty but clean performance to boost her confidence and judges' faith on her.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:54 am

tigster wrote:
Does anyone know why Mao is reluctant to add a 3Toe at the end of her combinations, if she was going for a 3-3?

It appears that a 3T doesn't attract the UR and downgrade calls as often as the the Loop or Flip might, and this might help her.

I think it's because the combo Mao usuelly practices are 3lo-3lo and 3f-3lo, it least it's them that we have seen her practicem and i presume that she therefor feels more comfortable doing those combo's.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:58 am

And for the record, I actually don't think who won by higher TES. Most people won by higher GOE. And normally GOE ties with PCS. They are all about reputation.
IMO, Mao should stick to her current layout. Make them stable. After she stabilizes her 2A3T, she could try for 3t3t.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:03 am

tianrushui wrote:
And for the record, I actually don't think who won by higher TES. Most people won by higher GOE. And normally GOE ties with PCS. They are all about reputation.
IMO, Mao should stick to her current layout. Make them stable. After she stabilizes her 2A3T, she could try for 3t3t.

this is the only combo i doubt Mao would ever include, i think it's much more like that she will put the 3f-3lo if she is going to add a 3-3
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cup of China   Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:06 am

tianrushui wrote:
Things don't work as if you want something then you can definitely get that...We always ask why doesn't Mao do this why doesn't Mao do that. Do we really think she is a superwoman capable of doing anything?
As for x3t combo, just look at Mao's success rate at 2A3T. Then I think you can get a clear answer why she doesn't do 3t3t or 3f3t.
What Mao needs right now is not high difficulty but clean performance to boost her confidence and judges' faith on her.

Agreed. She needs to skate clean this time above anything. Even Ashley did only a 3-2 in SA, and if Kostner didn't withdraw she would've done the same I imagine. It's the same for all top ladies. Esp in Mao's case, this time she should build her confidence in SP and then head on to FP. I think it's the same for all skaters, but when you reach a certain age and level, you can't always be fearless but you have to play the game more wisely.

Thanks for the clips everyone...btw, can anyone tell me the actual URL where I might be able to see спорт 2 live streaming? Am I supposed to go directly to спорт 2 official site? Plz, someone help! They're not airing it live on tv here in Jpn, plus I've been having trouble watching Asahi tv due to weather problems lately... Worship

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