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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:37 pm

Heres the reason why there are many EMPTY seats at the competitions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sochi-olympics-whats-behind-the-empty-seats-at-the-2014-winter-games/
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:11 pm

Congratulations Yuzu, Chan and Denise  Confetti Confetti Confetti 

I only checked the protocol and watched only Yuzu's performance clip.

I'm really happy for Denise.  He must be very proud of himself for making a great comeback and wining OBM!!  OTH, I'm very sad to know that Javi zayakked ...  Neutral  And Tatuki, only if he didn't mess up his 3lz in SP ...  silent 

It looks there were not many clean skates at all.  But they competed in totally different levels where many of the skaters attempted a quad/quads, unlike the Vancouver where quad-less skater was able to win.  

It's distressing to read that Mao's chances are getting slim because Yuzu has won.  As she said many times her goal at this Olympics is to deliver two clean performances.  I want her to remember the disappointment and resentment she felt at herself after FS in Vancouver for making mistakes and fire up her spirit to not repeat it but achieve her goal.  She's been working so hard, overcoming a lot of difficulties both in her skating life and personal life.  oh god please help her.
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:27 pm

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Heres the reason why there are many EMPTY seats at the competitions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sochi-olympics-whats-behind-the-empty-seats-at-the-2014-winter-games/

This might be one of the reasons, but it's certainly not the only reason. Honestly, this article is making it sound like the arenas are half empty because the American's chose not to go.  Rolling Eyes 

Sponsors get a lot of tickets and then no one from them shows up. London had the same problem. British were begging for tickets but couldn't get any, because a certain percentage went to different corporations, and no one showed up. So they had a lot of empty seats and even more very pissed off citizens.

I've just read some comments from jeremy over at GS. I have to say this guy is delusional and needs to learn how to present himself to the public.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/sochi/2014/02/14/winter-games-usa-jeremy-abbott-jason-brown-figure-skating/5480137/

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It's distressing to read that Mao's chances are getting slim because Yuzu has won.  As she said many times her goal at this Olympics is to deliver two clean performances.  I want her to remember the disappointment and resentment she felt at herself after FS in Vancouver for making mistakes and fire up her spirit to not repeat it but achieve her goal.  She's been working so hard, overcoming a lot of difficulties both in her skating life and personal life.  oh god please help her.

Nothing is over until it's over. Mao still has a chance but she'll have to have two skates of her life to make it happen, so it's up to her. No room for error.
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:36 pm

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The livestreams are not working here! And unfortunately I don't subscribe to the channels with Olympics. Will be heading over to my friends place to watch Mao. I'll be a wreck! I got class at 9am and it's 3.30am here. Ahhh, perils of a figure skating fan

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Where are you from? Here in Slovenia, the streams have been working great, with an ocasional hiccup, hopefully it'll stay this way.  Worship 

Now you get to see how the Europeans felt during Vancouver. The skating started at around 2 am, and finished between 5-6 am, after that I had to get ready for either school, or work. I really did look like a zombie by the time the Games have ended. Thank God Russia is 3 hours ahead of us.

I'm from Singapore! I finally understand how torturous it is for all of y'all to wake up so early to catch the broadcast. I asked my friend if I could go over to watch Mao after checking the schedule last week! Well prepared. I don't know if my heart can take it though :/
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:44 pm

Eh... missed checking out the forum during the competition. I can only manage being in the FB group but I'll try to be here also during the ladies' competition.

The men's LP was a bit underwhelming but so happy that Yuzuru managed to hang on for the gold. Patty let that chance slip by his fingers. And Dai... that was really beautiful. If he only didn't attempt a quad given his condition and just maybe tried to skate clean with all triples in both SP and FS I think he could have made podium. But then Dai is also stubborn like Mao when it comes to that.

I've read several not so good tweets on Tatsuki's firebird last night. Ryan Bradley made a joke... something like Fawkes (Dumbledore's phoenix) puked on it. And then there's Michael Buckley who said "Firebird? more like Flappy Bird"... Another one was saying about flailing arms.

I just hope Mao will get a confidence boost from Yuzu's gold, don't think about points and the gold so much and just focus on giving the performance she wanted. I want her to live her dream of being able to skate clean in the Oly. In Vancouver, even with the 5pt gap, she was so happy because she nailed her short. Now I want her to nail both short and long.

Congrats Yuzu, Patty and Denis!


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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:37 pm

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Eh... missed checking out the forum during the competition. I can only manage being in the FB group but I'll try to be here also during the ladies' competition.

The men's LP was a bit underwhelming but so happy the Yuzuru managed to hand on for the gold. Patty let that chance slip by his fingers. And Dai... that was really beautiful. If he only didn't attempt a quad given his condition and just maybe tried to skate clean with all triples in both SP and FS I think he could have made podium. But then Dai is also stubborn like Mao when it comes to that.

I've read several not so good tweets on Tatsuki's firebird last night. Ryan Bradley made a joke... something like Fawkes (Dumbledore's phoenix) puked on it. And then there's Michael Buckley who said "Firebird? more like Flappy Bird"... Another one was saying about flailing arms.

I just hope Mao will get a confidence boost from Yuzu's gold, don't think about points and the gold so much and just focus on giving the performance she wanted. I want her to live her dream of being able to skate clean in the Oly. In Vancouver, even with the 5pt gap, she was so happy because she nailed her short. Now I want her to nail for short and long.

Congrats Yuzu, Patty and Denis!

Remember in Worlds 2010? When Daisuke won? Mao said she was motivated.
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:57 pm

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I've just read some comments from jeremy over at GS. I have to say this guy is delusional and needs to learn how to present himself to the public.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/sochi/2014/02/14/winter-games-usa-jeremy-abbott-jason-brown-figure-skating/5480137/


Wow, did he really say that? Such big mouth from a skaters known for being a choker. Just when I like him more and more. I thought that his programs were really beautiful and he's the kind of skater who can charm the audience just by flapping his arms.

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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:54 pm

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Nothing is over until it's over. Mao still has a chance but she'll have to have two skates of her life to make it happen, so it's up to her. No room for error.

Exactly.  Twisted Evil 

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Remember in Worlds 2010? When Daisuke won? Mao said she was motivated.

Good point!!  Very Happy 


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zarinaballerina wrote:
I've just read some comments from jeremy over at GS. I have to say this guy is delusional and needs to learn how to present himself to the public.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/sochi/2014/02/14/winter-games-usa-jeremy-abbott-jason-brown-figure-skating/5480137/


Wow, did he really say that? Such big mouth from a skaters known for being a choker. Just when I like him more and more. I thought that his programs were really beautiful and he's the kind of skater who can charm the audience just by flapping his arms.

oh Jeremy ... that too much to say to the media.  Disappointed  If he wanted to let off steam by ranting he should've done in private, not in the presence of people from the media.  I don't know if he knew it was recorded or not. It's naive to assume that they will ever try to put themselves in his shoes, better be wary of them who look for every opportunity to take advantage of whatever you feed them.  Neutral 


by the way, on top of Yuzu, Ms. Kobayashi was made famous by being with him in K&C and people loved her reaction ... http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2139231664848885801
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:31 pm

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The livestreams are not working here! And unfortunately I don't subscribe to the channels with Olympics. Will be heading over to my friends place to watch Mao. I'll be a wreck! I got class at 9am and it's 3.30am here. Ahhh, perils of a figure skating fan

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Where are you from? Here in Slovenia, the streams have been working great, with an ocasional hiccup, hopefully it'll stay this way.  Worship 

Now you get to see how the Europeans felt during Vancouver. The skating started at around 2 am, and finished between 5-6 am, after that I had to get ready for either school, or work. I really did look like a zombie by the time the Games have ended. Thank God Russia is 3 hours ahead of us.

I'm from Singapore! I finally understand how torturous it is for all of y'all to wake up so early to catch the broadcast. I asked my friend if I could go over to watch Mao after checking the schedule last week! Well prepared. I don't know if my heart can take it though :/

Omg I feel your pain!! It's so hard with the schedule and coping with school!! I totally dozed off last night trying to watch the Men FS! I saw only Denis Ten and after that i was in dreamland  Sleep and woke up at like 3 to see parts of Jason brown and the final result heh.

(On a side note, rachmaninoffangel, there are re-runs in the afternoon! So FYI Smile )

I totally dont want to jinx anything, as it would be horrible. Cause I so wanted Kevin Reynolds, Machida to nail his SP and look what happened.... And Ice dance and ladies are 2 segments that would be so nerve wrecking... How did I even survive Vancouver the last time...  Snow 
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:37 pm

http://www.japantoday.com/category/picture-of-the-day/view/good-start

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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:52 pm

I actually think Jeremy ranting out like that is brave because I often wish celebrities and other famous figures would stand up for what they believe in, but for fear of keeping one's image, they don't. My only issue is that he was probably fueled more by his frustration of his performances than from a fire created out of unjust opinions from others. Besides, it's not like he didn't have good points. He made a point that the public should try to imagine themselves in another person's shoes. Yes it's difficult, but it's better to try to be empathic than to be apathetic. It is also a long shot to expect the public to be empathetic, but I still think it's good that he gave us a reminder to try to be empathic towards others, even famous figures. Instead of criticizing him, we should at least look at the good points he made in his speech.
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:32 am

I wonder if Mao goes back to bending as low as she used to before going into a 3a, would she get the rotation she needs to avoid all of the ur she's been getting this season. She won't travel as far,  but she will get the height she needs to complete the rotations before landing.  

Bless his heart,  but as good as a coach Sato has been to Mao, she clearly needs a jump tech on hand to fine tune her jumps, which has gotten a lot better. But not good enough to be consistent and to avoid her ur issues. 

Since Mao's a Disney fan I would like to dedicate this song to help boost her confidence heading into her competitions:

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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:44 am

I just caught up on the broadcast of the men's FS, what an event.

As Kurt Browning concluded, there really wasn't a single brilliant skate in the whole of the 24 skaters. It was a very strange event indeed.

When I saw that Yuzu won Gold, I really expected more than when I saw the broadcast.
I didn't expect that he left such a large room for Patrick- but Patrick, as many have mentioned, didn't take this opportunity.

The battle was really...who made fewer mistakes, and it came down to who had a better short program.

My fav were Daisuke and Jason Brown.
Jason was so carefree and happy to just be at the Olympics- everyone else was so focused on the medal the scores, but Jason was just focused on the performance. It was great that he was at the end, it was like a breath of fresh air that the crowd deserved after such a tiring event.
And his reaction in the K&C was just so cute, I love his relationship with his coach. He really showed throughout his skate how much he loves what he does.

Daisuke's skate was just beautiful- it was a summation of the artistry he had developed over the years, the technical was one part of it, but the entire skate was what made it magical. He showed his love and dedication to skating in that program.

In a way, that's how I hope Mao will end her career too. No matter what the final result is, everyone already has so much respect for her. Her previous coaches, other skaters' coaches, other skaters, younger skaters, the public, all love and respect her as a skater and as a person. She just has to show her passion and her love for her skating on the ice, and the ending will be magical as well. I think I might just start bawling by the end of her programs!
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:44 am

Mao returned to Sochi:

http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/olympic/sochi/2014/02/15/1p_0006711304.shtml
Due to the interview incident when Mao first arrived in Sochi, this time she didn't take any interview.

On the other hand, in Jpn, Mai took the interview in an event and talked about Mao:
http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/gossip/2014/02/15/0006711238.shtml

Mai says she's in contact with Mao everyday when Mao was in Armenia. Mai reported that Mao's training there went quite well. Mai also confirms that Mao's costume is in the blue colour.
Mai also said that she got a lot of photos from Mao when she was in Sochi earlier for the team event, including a photo with Narumi at the game centre in Sochi... Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:58 am

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I wonder if Mao goes back to bending as low as she used to before going into a 3a, would she get the rotation she needs to avoid all of the ur she's been getting this season. She won't travel as far,  but she will get the height she needs to complete the rotations before landing.  

1. That would be risky, changing something in a jump so shortly before the competition would render it unstable.

2. It's not necessary. The 3As Mao did in practices before the team event were the highest she's ever done, and the best in terms of rotation and smooth landing. I didn't see any underrotated one, and she even overrotated the one in the 1st practice session. Mao's 3A jumping style started to remind me of Nobunari's - that soft knee landing.


The problem is the speed - Mao underrotated 3A in the SP because she was too slow going into it.  It's always more difficult to land a jump in competition than in practice, but if she approaches the jump with more confidence, she should be fine.

I think Sato did a good job with Mao's jumps, actually. Thumbs up! I think they would be close to perfect if it weren't for 2 things:

1. I agree with TAT that it would be best if Mao took the post-Vancouver season off and reworked her jumps before bringing them them into competitions. They weren't even close to ready in the 2010-11 season, and as a result Mao switched back and forth between old and new technique, messing up her muscle memory. Reportedly JSF "politely suggested" that Mao should appear in the GP series because she improves the TV ratings when she competes, though...
2. Outside circumstances - Mao's training schedule was affected by the tsunami disaster in Japan (& Moving the Worlds to Moscow), her mother illness and passing away, late growth spurt and having problems with eating and developing muscle mass, chronic back injury, etc.. Those aren't things that any coach could help with, though.  Sad

Selfishly, I kind of hope that after Sochi Mao takes a season or two off, but comes back for the 2018 Olympics. Her technique would be even more stable then, and her expression and skating skills have improved so much recently that her programs would be a joy to watch.  Lips sealed

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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:52 am

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I think Sato did a good job with Mao's jumps, actually. Thumbs up! I think they would be close to perfect if it weren't for 2 things:

1. I agree with TAT that it would be best if Mao took the post-Vancouver season off and reworked her jumps before bringing them them into competitions. They weren't even close to ready in the 2010-11 season, and as a result Mao switched back and forth between old and new technique, messing up her muscle memory. Reportedly JSF "politely suggested" that Mao should appear in the GP series because she improves the TV ratings when she competes, though...

I didn't know that TAT had ever proposed taking one season off to Mao. Ironically, in the biography book '浅田真央 そして、その瞬間へ' published last year, it talks about, during spring 2011, when Mao's mother was diagnosed with the result that required operation, she once talked with Mao about her wishes for Mao. She would like Mao to take one year off from skating, in case anything happens. But Mao thought at that time: if I take one year off, my skill would deteriorate. So she just kept on. And we all know how stubborn she could be...
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:38 am

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I didn't know that TAT had ever proposed taking one season off to Mao.

There was an interview with TAT posted fairly recently at FSU where TAT talked about Mao, among other things:
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?89905-The-portrait-of-Mao-Asada-by-the-story-which-Tatiana-Tarasova-talked-about
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“After Vancouver Olympics, I think that she needed to take a long rest. Yes, it's like Yu-Na Kim. She interrupted the participation to a competition for over 1.5 years. I think that it was necessary to take rest for mind, for Mao, too. It was big tragedy for her to have lost the mother.
There was the alternative which she participates only to big event, such as Worlds, after the Olympics, too. In that case, she doesn't participate to the other event. Her competition schedule might have been planned by mistake. If I would have planned, I would have released her from the competition.”

(The translation's a bit shaky, but hopefuly understandable).

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But Mao thought at that time: if I take one year off, my skill would deteriorate. So she just kept on. And we all know how stubborn she could be...  

Yes, I remember that Mao said she doesn't want skip the GP series because she's afraid that if she doesn't attempt the jumps there (in front of the audience), she'll be too nervous to attempt them later (at Nationals / Worlds). It seemed to make sense at the time. However, looking back, not doing 3A throughout the 1st half of the 2012-13 season actually made it more stable and helped Mao to get rid of the "squatting" entry position and too long approach. Well, the hindsight is always 20/20...  Sweatdrop 
I don't blame Team Mao for not skipping the GP series that season, but perhaps skipping would allow Mao to concentrate on jumps and eradicate the old technique sooner, while avoiding practicing spins for some time might have helped her lessen the chronic back pain. Plus, showing the jumps when they weren't ready just earned Mao the reputation for underrotating, and more intense scrutiny of her jumps later on. Perhaps it's a lesson other skaters will benefit from.  Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:38 am

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Selfishly, I kind of hope that after Sochi Mao takes a season or two off, but comes back for the 2018 Olympics. Her technique would be even more stable then, and her expression and skating skills have improved so much recently that her programs would be a joy to watch.  Lips sealed

Selfish me wishes the same.  Indeed, watching how much she's been getting better and better in recent months, it's really pity to see her leaving competitive figure skating for good.  I don't know if I really want her to continue until the 2018 Olympics. But, I hope she will come back after taking a season off and skate to programs done by different choreographers, like Kenji Miyamoto and Camerlengo. I'm sure they will draw different appeals from her with emphasis on her skating skills.

I read a news article pasted on twitter about a week ago or so. IIRC, it said something like: it was last fall when Mao was at her rink and putting her skates on, she said quietly "Will I be doing training like now around this time next year?" Then, Kumiko-sensei said to her "Take a break for a year or two and come back!"


Just finished watching Dai. He's so beautiful.  It's too bad he couldn't get the quad back in time for Sochi.  I'm not really fan of his Beatles FS, but he skates so beautiful beyond words.
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:34 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyTmeyb1Hbk&feature=youtu.be

LOL Nobu burst into tears again  Too sweet! 

Because he was seeing how Dai's practices were going at their uni, he was so worried. He was moved by Dai's performance and thanked him.  When Dai said when it's over ... Nobu cut in and said let's go and eat BBQ.  When Nobu started crying, Dai said hey come on you don't let me cry (LOL).

Nobu asked Yuzu where his Pooh-san was, and Yuzu said it was in his room in Sochi.  To Tatsuki, he asked how he felt about his first Olympics, Tatsuki said he's scared and he wanted to do good performances to carry out his words.
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:44 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BUj4lqOSt4
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:52 am

Hey guys) I'm in Sochi)Weather is really nice here. I'm going to practices tomorrow,hope I can see Mao there!
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:03 am

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyTmeyb1Hbk&feature=youtu.be

LOL Nobu burst into tears again  Too sweet! 

Because he was seeing how Dai's practices were going at their uni, he was so worried. He was moved by Dai's performance and thanked him.  When Dai said when it's over ... Nobu cut in and said let's go and eat BBQ.  When Nobu started crying, Dai said hey come on you don't let me cry (LOL).

Nobu asked Yuzu where his Pooh-san was, and Yuzu said it was in his room in Sochi.  To Tatsuki, he asked how he felt about his first Olympics, Tatsuki said he's scared and he wanted to do good performances to carry out his words.

 lol! I love Nobu, he would be the most random interviewer, but I can see him being such a fun Dad!
Haha- Dai's expression seeing Nobu there.

I laughed so hard at that interview, Nobu seems to say let's go and eat BBQ to everyone. His written message to Mao previously also ended with, let's go eat hot pot  Unconscious


polosatik wrote:
Hey guys) I'm in Sochi)Weather is really nice here. I'm going to practices tomorrow,hope I can see Mao there!

Have fun Polosatik! That's amazing that you are able to be there! Have a great time at your Olympic experience! Please update on Mao for us and send her lots of cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:07 am

Hope you have fun, Asya! cheers 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyTmeyb1Hbk&feature=youtu.be

LOL Nobu burst into tears again  Too sweet! 

Aww!  flower What a super classy team.  Rockstar And PML at Yuzu: "Pooh-san watched me from my room!"  Laugh 

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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:18 am

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BUj4lqOSt4
Mao & Akiko at airport


Thanks for the clip always nice to get news of Mao, even if it's only a very short one. Mao looks great
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PostSubject: Re: Sochi Olympics 2014!   Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:27 am

inskate wrote:
Hope you have fun, Asya! cheers 

linglang wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyTmeyb1Hbk&feature=youtu.be

LOL Nobu burst into tears again  Too sweet! 

Aww!  flower What a super classy team.  Rockstar And PML at Yuzu: "Pooh-san watched me from my room!"  Laugh 

I couldn't help but laugh when I saw Dai, yuzu, and Machidas expression when nobu greeted them, it was soo heartfelt to see the interview even through i couldn't understand a word, there were times when I felt that Nobu wanted to tell them something, but held back knowing they were on air.
Looks like Nobu would make a good interviewer, hope he will get alot of opportunities and be succesful outside of skating, throguh a part of me is secretly hoping he might change his mind and make a comeback  Hell, no! , I just can't come to terms with him being so immensely talented and retiring without any World or Olympic medal.

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