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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:52 am

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:03 am

thanks for the scoring sheet!

Ohh...I hope Patrick is alright! I love him so much !
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:04 am

Great job, Mao! Daisies for you Nice GoEs for layback and spiral sequence. 3 judges actually gave her the highest PCS and one - exactly the same as YuNa. Only one judge really lowballed her PCS.
The PCS are all over the place for both YuNa and Mao, btw... Everything from 6.00 to 8.00. Laugh

On GPF they say that there was no official announcement about Patrick yet, just a post on a Korean forum. I hope he's fine, it would be a shame if he had to withdraw. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:13 am

Okami wrote:

On GPF they say that there was no official announcement about Patrick yet, just a post on a Korean forum. I hope he's fine, it would be a shame if he had to withdraw. Sad

Actually, he took a really bad fall on his 3axel! He had so much power that it seems that he was going for a 4axel! lol! He was far behind in the air! Hope he didn't get injured because of that fall..
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:27 am

I just got back home and watched Mao's program. Congratulations, young lady! That was fabulous. Wub

Tatiana's reaction to Mao's performance was so adorable. Many Hearts
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:17 pm

Kanako Murakami SP: Love Hearts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GnPjSA07vk
It's sooo adorable. Boogie And it's nice to see Machiko Yamada at boards again! Woot!

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:11 pm

So the loop was downgraded.. Somehow I'm glad about it was, so the score is still amazingly high with a 3-2.
The other elements have very high levels, great she got level 4 for the spirals. Now just imagine if she had succeded doing the triple loop at the end of the combination, the TE would be 40+!

Should she actually only do 3-2? She wouldn't lose points in the GOE and still have a very high result..
Still I think she should keep on trying 3-3 in the short - she might lose her confidence not doing her trademark combination anymore..

Why did Yu-Na only get level 3 for her spirals? Sometimes I really don't understand the tiny difference between level 3 and 4..

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:12 pm

Maya wrote:


Why did Yu-Na only get level 3 for her spirals? Sometimes I really don't understand the tiny difference between level 3 and 4..
I think that her change of edge in her spiral wasn't good...
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:41 pm

Sigh. After watching Mao's program for the 10th(?) time, I still can't help feeling unhappy that Mao got less for her 3F-3Lo< than the base value of a 3F! It just doesn't seem right. The same for the 3A<+2T - how can the final score be less than half what Mao got for the 3A alone? Grrr... Very Mad

What I was thinking though, is that Mao's combo has definitely changed. I remember being so impressed watching Skate America 2006 because Mao's loop was higher than the flip. But on the TV Asahi video, when they showed the strobe-motion, it's clearly not as high as the flip. I feel like the flip has gotten bigger, but maybe that's hurting her ability to do the 3Lo...Did anyone else notice that?

But anyway, gosh, everything is soo beautiful! Swoon
mitsuno - I totally agree, at TEB I just couldn't get into that program, but I absolutely love it now!! Love Hearts

In other news - As it turns out, I was right about Shanetta Folle being in Japan with Mao after NHK Trophy (see thread on "Mao's jumping coach"). She would talk on the phone with TAT and tell Mao what TAT said. I think that's a good system! Very Happy

Does anyone know what Midori Ito said about Yu-Na's performance? Or what about the other nations' commentators said about the competition? I can't wait to hear what the British Eurosport people had to say!

Ah well, today I don't think I can wake up in time for the free skate, so I'm just going to have watch it later. Sweatdrop

Goo Mao! Show them what a true fighter and champion you are! Cheering
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:17 am

Batsuchan wrote:
What I was thinking though, is that Mao's combo has definitely changed. I remember being so impressed watching Skate America 2006 because Mao's loop was higher than the flip.

In other news - As it turns out, I was right about Shanetta Folle being in Japan with Mao after NHK Trophy (see thread on "Mao's jumping coach"). She would talk on the phone with TAT and tell Mao what TAT said. I think that's a good system! Very Happy

Does anyone know what Midori Ito said about Yu-Na's performance?
Okami mentioned it. Very Happy We are talking about Mao, though, so once GPF is over I'm sure Mao's team will work on it. I love you The arrangement between Shanetta and Tat is also nice to hear. Yep! I must admit I was confused with why Mao called her "Janna-sensei," but it looks like they are the same person after all. Laugh

I watched the TV Asahi broadcast alongside WebTV again, and Midori was fair and complimented everyone as usual. She said (from her angle) that the lutz looked a tad inside and depending on the judge, the combo will get the UR call. As for Yu-Na, she actually compared her to Mao's GPF SP last year, and felt the "tables have turned, in a way" (Mao being last and Yu-Na first last year after the SP). So you can tell the atmosphere was a bit...awkward when the scores were announced. silent

Junior Ladies Final Result:
1 Becky BERESWILL USA 146.69 4 2
2 Yukiko FUJISAWA JPN 145.92 7 1
3 Alexe GILLES USA 144.49 1 4
4 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 141.63 2 3
5 Angela MAXWELL USA 131.75 3 5
6 Kristine MUSADEMBA USA 122.86 8 6
7 Amanda DOBBS USA 117.07 5 7
8 Diane SZMIETT CAN 113.25 6 8

Congrats to the medalist, and ESPECIALLY Yukiko for having the only error-free skate today! cheers It's a shame she was so far behind in the short, but to pull up from 7th to 2nd place is quite something. Her TES was better than a lot of the senior skaters too in their LP! I love you I've also enjoyed Angela, Alexe, and Kanako's performances, and would've placed Kanako and Alexe higher...but Kanako got 3 UR calls, Alexe one UR, and you know what happens by now when skaters get a UR call... Evil or Very Mad Still, the top ladies all did well, and Kanako got the highest PCS scores for the FS, so it's a step in the right direction.

Good luck to the senior skaters on their free skate or free dance, and as always, go Mao! Boogie

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PostSubject: Another Withdrawal!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:17 am

Ice Dance Final Results
1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 156.10 1 1
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 152.95 2 2
3 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA 148.04 5 3
4 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 145.12 3 4

The two D/S dominated (not a surprise), with DelSchoe winning over DomShab. B/A withdrew this time, so only four teams competed in the FD today (K/N withdrew yesterday). This is bizarre...is the food poisoning rumor true? Eek. For those with IN it seems like PJ Kwong - the substitute commentator for Nancy Kerrigan - has been talking about it nonstop in addition to gossiping about other things. ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO

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Junior Ladies: mediafire.com ?sharekey=88ac9ba3858c88f991b20cc0d07ba4d240b0b76f06d3ebc0 (I was so irritated by Kanako's scores that I clumped her performance with Alexe's together) Who, me? My apologies.
Ice Dance: mediafire.com ?sharekey=88ac9ba3858c88f991b20cc0d07ba4d21d42d9aa2576c7c8

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:24 am

Our Vasya said , someone has consulted with the nerves and did a clean program,and someone did a single and still in first Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:00 am

I'm watching the final on TvAsahi now on KEYHOLETV.
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:00 am

Congrats to Yukiko and other medalists! And to Kanako for the highest PCS! flower

The men's LP is about to start... Patrick is apparently still competing, but Brian withdrew instead... There are a lot of withdrawals. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:16 am

Patrick fell on his first 3a... ;(
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:18 am

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:32 am

I just came home, switched on the TV (and my PC) right away... but noooo!!!What happened to Brian!? Bawling
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:35 am

Brian apparently injured himself in the morning practice.

The LP results so far:

1 Jeremy ABBOTT USA 159.46 82.56 76.90 7.70 7.50 7.75 7.75 7.75 0.00 #5
2 Johnny WEIR USA 143.00 71.30 71.70 7.45 6.60 7.40 7.10 7.30 0.00 #3
3 Tomas VERNER CZE 137.31 63.21 74.10 7.55 7.05 7.45 7.55 7.45 0.00 #2
4 Patrick CHAN CAN 137.16 65.96 73.20 7.60 7.20 7.10 7.35 7.35 2.00 #1

Jeremy landed two 3A and made no mistakes, Johnny doubled 3Loop, Thomas and Patrick sort of bombed. Takahiko is about to skate!
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:43 am

Aww...Takahiko. He kind of run out of steam in the end. Bawling Still, second in his first GPF ever is still an accomplishment. And Jeremy did an excellent job, and Johnny hung in there. Well, Nats should interesting...Lysacek is not even remotely close to being the favorite now.

PatChan and Verner...yeah. Lips sealed Looks like 3A is going to continue to be a key part of whether PatChan will crash or burn, just like with Jeff Buttle. silent

(I was too engrossed in watching the competition that I clumped Weir, Jeremy, and Takahiko's programs together...oh dear Frustrated)

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:43 am

Argh d@mn, Takahiko fell two times. Depressed Crying But he won a silver medal! Daisies for you

1 Jeremy ABBOTT USA 159.46 82.56 76.90 7.70 7.50 7.75 7.75 7.75 0.00 #5
2 Johnny WEIR USA 143.00 71.30 71.70 7.45 6.60 7.40 7.10 7.30 0.00 #3
3 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 140.73 69.43 73.30 7.80 7.15 7.20 7.30 7.20 2.00 #6
4 Tomas VERNER CZE 137.31 63.21 74.10 7.55 7.05 7.45 7.55 7.45 0.00 #2
5 Patrick CHAN CAN 137.16 65.96 73.20 7.60 7.20 7.10 7.35 7.35 2.00 #1

Final placements:

1 Jeremy ABBOTT
USA
237.72 2 1
2 Takahiko KOZUKA
JPN
224.63 1 3
3 Johnny WEIR
USA
215.50 4 2
4 Tomas VERNER
CZE
206.65 5 4
5 Patrick CHAN
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205.16 6 5
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:52 am

Takahiko's 3 loop was DG? Suspect Geeze, whether in combination or not, the 3lp is the unluckiest jump of the year! Panic!

Well, for both Jr. Ladies and Men, Japan took second place...I just hope I'm not jinxing Mao any further than necessary. Drama!

Ok, I lied, I watched the program. I thought the Korean crowd was great...until Mao's FS. Who, me? Very little applause for both 3A's. Mao fell on her flip so didn't max out the combos...still scored over 123 though. Hmm... Lips sealed Well, now that Yu-Na landed her 3-3 they are back to cheering. silent

MAO WINS!!!!!! Finally the judges had it right!!! (except for Miki and Yukari's placements!!!)

Holy...COW! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:08 am

WOW MAO!!! She got back her title!!! and in Korea too!! cheers

How was both her 3As? were they clean?

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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:15 am

MAO WON!!! WOW! Congrats Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:17 am

1 Mao ASADA JPN 188.55 2 1
2 Yu-Na KIM KOR 186.35 1 2
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 168.01 4 4
4 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 166.36 6 3
5 Yukari NAKANO JPN 161.93 3 6
6 Miki ANDO JPN 158.25 5 5

Phew, dear me. Scores were too close for comfort and I am still in a state of shock. Drama! I thought Yu-Na would win since she nailed the 3fl-3t and the 2A-3T, but then she popped her lutz (the lutz seems to give her as much problems as the loop now that I think about it...wasn't this the jump she fell twice on in Worlds '07?), and then she had a fall on a salchow. Mao was able to do the 3A-2T, and the 3A and she fell on a flip, so she won fair and square...at least in my eyes. Yep! (I'm also shocked at Miki and Yukari's scores...how many DG did they get? Judges are killing me again) Frustrated

I'm still disappointed at the crowd though...they had very little reaction for Mao's 3A, or Yukari's 3A attempt, Miki's 4S attempt, or Joannie's 3T-3S SEQ. I remember them being far more enthusiastic at 4CC...must be because Yu-Na was competing this time... Sweatdrop Oh well. Props to Yu-Na for managing to maintain herself, she was able to land the 3fl-3T and 2A-3T.

Midori mentions that the 2nd 3A was ratified, and Japanese TV have the protocols in front of her, so I think so! Mao made it to the record books then! Thumbs up!

ETA: Protocols are up! Yup, they are ratified! Congrats Mao!! Dance Cheering
Mao's FS: mediafire.com ?2hyk5q5gjzo
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PostSubject: Re: Grand Prix Final 2008!!!   Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:23 am

I'm back. I was afraid to watch the competition. The crowd wasn't really warm to Mao in SP... I was afraid that the nerves or problems with stamina will get to Mao in the long (and perhaps just a tiny bit they did), but she held it together. Many Hearts

YAYYYYYYYYYY for getting her title back! That's the way to go! Thumbs up! Rockstar Encore queen

Shame about the fall on 3F, but BIG congratulations for getting two 3As ratified! Confetti

I'm so sad for Yukari and Miki... But Yukari is usually a late season bloomer, and Miki just changed her LP, so they still have chance to do lots better at Worlds. Good luck!
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