I have an idea:

We’re playing game “Secret Santa” on our forum , why don’t we play some game with YNKF? I think it would be great way to prove all those crazy people on youtube, there’s no war between TRUE fans of Yuna and Mao.

We could send them (YNKF) a message that we want to give their forum some special gift ( 1 or 2 montages with Yuna) for Christmas and we would be really happy if they did something similar in return Two or three days before christmas we can upload montages from both forums on youtube and write that there were made by forums of Mao Asada and Yuna Kim : ) What do you think about that? I think it would be nice gesture and thanks to it we can show other people than being Mao’s fan doesn’t mean being Yuna’s hater & Vice Versa.

I know that because of our game “Secret Santa” we can have some problems with time for all those things, but we have 3 weeks, I think we can do it. What do you think about that?

I've made a mistake writing title of the topic... please, forgive me that

So you will be double-secret santa

Ask them polosatik if you can, I think it would be interesing project

well I have to say I find the project interesting, and at the same time I am afraid that it could lead to the opposite effect... because I don't know how most of there feelings are to mao, and it wouldn't surprise me if there were some yuna fans who practically don't like mao and would get mad by just having other people who like mao to or cheer for her. I mean I really don't know much about yuna forum, because I'm obviously a mao fan... I really don't know, but if the project is succesful, it would be worth it... because I have to say I am beginning to get tired of reading all these sick comment on mao's video's as well as other skaters... and if this project may stop those sick comments I wouldn't mind... but that also depends on how people normarly are at yuna kim forum... because if there are many of those people who hate mao, then i don't want to have anything to do with them, and the project would be a waste of time...

Um, I don't really like this idea because a joined project means some members there are going to come to this forum and naturally they won't like some of things written here as Mao fans here feel the same about some of the things said about Mao on that forum. This could potentially cause a lot of unnecessary conflicts that I don't really want to see. I prefer that our project remains exclusive to this forum.

We also have to remember a lot of the users here and there are exclusive fans of each skater. There are also those that like both skaters but don't feel the incentive to do actually make a montage or something for both.

Wow! Pochi, you're genius!!!!!!! How that thought came to your head? it's unbelievable! You're the best gift to us!
I'm all for this project, but let's wait if more people want to participate.
Btw, I will post about video which you have shared with us! I love that Vasya's commentaries sound there.

Btw, those who don't think this is all such a good idea, simply don't have to participate. If europeanfan can gather a certain number of members who would like to do it, I think it would be fine for them to do it anyway. But I do think it still should be an only one way present from our side to them. I'm sure at least some reasonable members in Yuna forum will be pleasantly surprised by our gesture, and think again how stupid this fan war has become. Of course they'll be others who will just ignore or make fun of whatever we send them, but who cares? I thought this wouldn't work at first as well as aoi and ballerinamao, too. But I gave it some thought, and felt that Mao would probabaly be happy and proud of us if we did do it.

Yes, after reading the idea, I kind of felt like we should do something similar to what Pochinko proposed. And yes, asking them to do a project in return may get mixed results from them. I don't see how this could. I guess a video montage is the only thing we can all really participate in, unless someone comes up with a better idea. What, is it going to be? Something like, "Merry Christmas Yuna Kim forum, from the Mao Asada Fan forum"? I can make a little message or picture to be added in if we decide to do the project.

The general consensus among the people in YNKF is that Mao's pretty much an okay skater and they have nothing against her. Exclusive fans cannot be avoided though. And well, the people at Fevers can sometimes be too harsh, and if they read comments about Yuna fans suddenly supporting Mao because of Yuna's absence... Well, let's just say that they become touchy after that.

Anyway, I like Pochi's idea. I'm glad she's volunteering to edit for us again, I think it pretty much says how much of a big heart Pochi has, despite not liking Yuna that much. But us discussing here pretty much ruins the surprise. I know some people there lurk over here.

I think we'd better hurry and find out whether we have enough people who want to participate. So maybe europeanfan or polosatik can PM some of the memebers who'd probabaly willing to join, rather than waiting for them to realize this thread.

I also think it would be nice if some participants could create their own artworks of Yuna like Star85 suggested to be shown with their messages, instead of just picking favored photos. But you all have to move very fast! Much faster than when we made Mao's birthday dvd.

But I also thought, we can do the present exchanging thing amonst forum members for Christmas which polosatik suggested, and create the video present for Yuna's forum as a New Years gift. That'll give me a bit more time to edit.

However, if you guys are really up to this, start finding participants now! Many people sent their stuff to bellarina way after the deadline when we made Mao's birthday dvd, and that caused hell for me! So, message under 50 words, a photo or an artwork from each participant by the 15th of this month if it should be a Chistmas present, 20th of this month if it should be a new years present. Plus this time I'm taking no requests for BGMs. It'll take too much time to add up everyone's opinions, so let me do the music choosing (I'm thinking blending some music from Yuna's past performances might be simple and nice). And I can help do the editing only. Somebody else please manage the project like bellarina did for Mao's dvd project. These are my conditions for doing the editing.
Oh, and no requests on whether or not participants want or do not want to have the video on Youtube. Nobody will show their faces, not even illustrated avatars, and we'll all use our IDs in this forum, there should be no problem.

ETA:And yeah...as klarification says, it won't be a surprise for YNKF I guess. But that's not much of a problem, cause I think they'll still be pretty surprised when they read all the nice things the participants have to say about Yuna. And about the timing...Yuna not competing this season except for Worlds...I think is actually all the better for us to do it now. Some of us can write messages that they're looking forward to her Arirang and Giselle, and it won't sound like sarcasm because Mao's not doing so well this season anyway. If Mao were winning every competition she entered this season during Yuna's absence, this would surely not be the right time to do it, but since not...I think this is a good opportunity. Besides, I'm worried Yuna might really retire after Worlds. We can't do this after she's gone you know?

I agree with Pochi, we need to hurry up. I'm starting PMing members right now.

Btw Star, did you get my PM? I want Secret Santa to be successful!

Pochi, the idea is very good. But I have a suggestion. Can we just dedicate a video to Yuna with emphasis on friendly rivalry with Mao? What I mean is to make this gift for Yuna herself and not to YNKF. Polosatik can post the link to the video in the forum. It's just that it seems several members at that forum have a unfavorable impression of our forum, even some of the members who like Mao have expressed a certain dislike for our forum. I don't know how our video will change their minds. In fact, to be a little cynical, some of them may feel we're trying to correct our image or our efforts are not genuine. And I don't think it's fair for members who put effort into this type of project to read these kind of feedback.