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PostSubject: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:56 am

I know without Mao everything is a LOT less bright but let's follow the competition. Also, there are 6 japanese skaters to cheer for sunny sunny

I am very excited to see the Junior Gran Prix Final as well, we know the big clash that will be Liza X Adelina. I am anxious to see Thumbs up! Thumbs up!

Here is the official page http://www.gpf2010.sports.cn/

And the ISU link to the event http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00011201.htm

Taka-chan boarding:



Kanako boarding:



As MikiAndoFan#1 already said, Miki changed her SP.

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:28 am

Chinese fans asked Sato Sensei about Mao. And Sato said Mao works hard everyday,Mao is very tough and strong in mind, she just needs more time and we need patience.
Morozov is really good at flirting with women,lol.
One Mao fan send Miki a bunch of flowers. And Morozov asked if he has flowers. After the fan answered that it is only for Miki, Morozov pretended to be very sad. Then the fan said ok, next time. He said, next time? The fan promised that next time she would bring flowers for him. Morozov immediately said that he liked yellow ones. lol


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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:29 am

Thanks Dani for pics! sunny
Kanako looks so funny!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:34 am

And Chinese Mao fans planned a team Sato banner. Hope the camera could catch it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:44 am

Sato Sensei in the airport. One miffy is for Koz, and the other one is for Mao. Kozmao would understand that,lol
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:06 am

tianrushui wrote:
Sato Sensei in the airport. One miffy is for Koz, and the other one is for Mao. Kozmao would understand that,lol

hahahahaha omg tianrushui, keep bringing the new to us.
Lol at Morozov, he is funny lol! lol! lol!
I really want to see the Team Mao banner, awwww Love Hearts Love Hearts

Like a Star @ heaven Pics from the practice:

http://www.jiji.com/news/photos/photo_news/images/450/view0209958.jpg
http://www.jiji.com/news/photos/photo_news/images/450/view0209963.jpg
http://www.jiji.com/news/photos/photo_news/images/450/view0210119.jpg
http://www.jiji.com/news/photos/photo_news/images/450/view0210130.jpg
http://www.jiji.com/news/photos/photo_news/images/450/view0210125.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:44 pm

Kanako looks so cute hehehe, i wish the podium for both men and woman would be japanese Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:57 pm

Ok I read this and I am SO MAD!!!

It's from icenetwork:

"Reigning world champion Mao Asada from Japan was out of shape at her two Grand Prix assignments and did not qualify for Beijing."

Excuse me, she is not out of shape, she is rehauling her jump technique. And if you haven't noticed, the only jumps she has landed in EVERY long this season were the two final jumps - both triples. She is NOT out of shape... Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:44 pm

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Ok I read this and I am SO MAD!!!

It's from icenetwork:

"Reigning world champion Mao Asada from Japan was out of shape at her two Grand Prix assignments and did not qualify for Beijing."

Excuse me, she is not out of shape, she is rehauling her jump technique. And if you haven't noticed, the only jumps she has landed in EVERY long this season were the two final jumps - both triples. She is NOT out of shape... Mad

I can't believe it, do they not follow the skaters too know what mao is going through Suspect
what the hell did they expect to see her reworking ALL her jumps in just a few month, jumps are not something one cn easily change, they are a reflex a part of a person that has been built up through many years of training and competition!! and to see her making progress soo early is already very impressive considering how little time mao has had too adjust to all the changes she is going through.

and her being able to do her jumps in practice means that she is getting used to her jumps, and now only needs time to adjust to them and the increased speed into the jumps.

anyway who cares about what they say, I will be the first one to have a good laugh when mao has her jumps back and blows everyone away Laughing
because once she has got them back the whole field will be a piece of cake to beat!!!! I thought they learned from last year that they shouldnt underestimete mao just because she has a bad start to the season because she normally always end the season in highlight. even through this season is a little different matter cause the big changes she has had,but I have absolutely no doubt she will get her jumps back soon.... and even through she may struggle this season if it will help her in the long run its worth sacrificing a few medals (which she has already won plenty of)....
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:25 pm

New Video of practice and other bits of them in China

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSAAoJ4S07Q
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:33 am

Jr Ladies SP already started.
Looking forward to seeing super russian girls!
You can watch on the following site today.
http://tvali.ge/index.php?action=sat&channel=70954
(delayed dozens minutes)

not 70995, but 70954
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:22 am

SP Result for Junior Ladies:

1 Adelina SOTNIKOVA RUS 57.27 31.52 25.75 6.61 6.18 6.54 6.36 6.50 0.00 #8
2 Elizaveta TUKTAMISHEVA RUS 53.76 29.36 24.40 6.21 5.75 6.36 6.04 6.14 0.00 #7
3 Polina SHELEPEN RUS 53.26 30.71 22.55 5.79 5.50 5.75 5.61 5.54 0.00 #5
4 Risa SHOJI JPN 52.56 28.56 24.00 6.21 5.75 5.96 6.04 6.04 0.00 #6
5 Zijun LI CHN 49.62 28.04 21.58 5.64 5.11 5.57 5.36 5.29 0.00 #1
6 Kristiene GONG USA 47.24 25.52 21.72 5.61 5.25 5.32 5.43 5.54 0.00 #2
7 Christina GAO USA 43.98 23.21 21.77 5.64 5.29 5.25 5.50 5.54 1.00 #4
8 Yasmin SIRAJ USA 38.08 18.34 20.74 5.32 5.14 4.86 5.39 5.21 1.00 #3

Liza was unable to go for the 3-3, so that more or less meant Adelina will automatically be in the lead. Both Adelina and Polina S landed the 3Lz-3T although Adelina had a slight stumble on the lutz and had to really power though the combo. Risa landed the 3S-3T; Christina switched her 3-3 to a visibly underrotated 3T-3T and had a fall on her 2A leaving her way down in 7th.

All in all, not too surprising of a result. The junior men are next. cat

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:32 am

I am kind of disappointed. I was waiting for Liza to go for the 3A or the 3-3.
It seems like ( I heard) that only Polina was able to land a clear 3-3, the others, even Risa, seemed to have underrotated it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:46 am

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I am kind of disappointed. I was waiting for Liza to go for the 3A or the 3-3.
It seems like ( I heard) that only Polina was able to land a clear 3-3, the others, even Risa, seemed to have underrotated it.
Liza said she was a little bit tight on the 3 lz landing so she decided to add only a 2 t, smart decision I guess. but still I don't get that 4 points lead of Adelina. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:54 am

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Liza said she was a little bit tight on the 3 lz landing so she decided to add only a 2 t, smart decision I guess. but still I don't get that 4 points lead of Adelina. scratch
Even with some -GoE (and possible UR), Adelina did still go for the 3Lz-3T so that's going to give her the edge on TES. The judges have made it pretty clear during the JGP that Adelina also has the advantage in terms of PCS too, so I'm personally not surprised at all. Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:57 am

Let's wait for the protocols: Adelina probably got high levels on her spins and steps. And also on her 3L and 2A. Plus, if her combo was only "<", the base value for that would still be high. And she had the highest PCS
My favorite was Liza though today. I just loved how she got into character right from the start of the music! No doubt she would be first with a 3Lz-3T. I hope she lands it tomorrow
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:04 am

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polosatik wrote:
Liza said she was a little bit tight on the 3 lz landing so she decided to add only a 2 t, smart decision I guess. but still I don't get that 4 points lead of Adelina. scratch
Even with some -GoE (and possible UR), Adelina did still go for the 3Lz-3T so that's going to give her the edge on TES. The judges have made it pretty clear during the JGP that Adelina also has the advantage in terms of PCS too, so I'm personally not surprised at all. Exclamation

yeah she is the judge's fave. I don't like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:10 am

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polosatik wrote:
Liza said she was a little bit tight on the 3 lz landing so she decided to add only a 2 t, smart decision I guess. but still I don't get that 4 points lead of Adelina. scratch
Even with some -GoE (and possible UR), Adelina did still go for the 3Lz-3T so that's going to give her the edge on TES. The judges have made it pretty clear during the JGP that Adelina also has the advantage in terms of PCS too, so I'm personally not surprised at all. Exclamation
As Dani said I don't like when someone is clear judges favorite. there is no huge difference between girls and such a gap. Bleh. Also Adelya is known for her flutz, and it seemed judges didn't notice that at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:13 am

Oh i was wrong, Adelina got e on her lutz.

Adelya


3lz - 3t < e (-1.40)
3Lo (+0.50)
FCSp4
2A (0.79)
CCoSp4
SlSt2
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Liza
3lz-2t (0.50)
3 Lo (0.70)
2A (0.50)
LSp2
FCSp3
CiSl2
CCoSp3

Polina
3Lz-3T (0)
3Lo (0.50)
2A(0.14)
FCSp2
SlSt2
CCoSp4
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:17 am

I personally think Adelina deserves the edge she gets on her PCS. I actually thought it was unfair to her to get almost the same PCS as Christina Gao, at her first junior grand prix.

You could also say that Liza got to many points for what she did compared to Risa. Or that Shelepen was underscored because she was clean, plus she landed the 3Lz-3T. But I think the results were fair today. Only if Liza would have landed the 3Lz-3T cleanly and still be second, I would call it unfair.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:24 am

polosatik wrote:
Oh i was wrong, Adelina got e on her lutz.

Adelya


3lz - 3t < e (-1.40)
3Lo (+0.50)
FCSp4
2A (0.79)
CCoSp4
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Liza
3lz-2t (0.50)
3 Lo (0.70)
2A (0.50)
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CiSl2
CCoSp3

Polina
3Lz-3T (0)
3Lo (0.50)
2A(0.14)
FCSp2
SlSt2
CCoSp4
LSp3

tks Polosastik, this means that Adelina rly wasn't overscored, her spins were lvl4 while Liza got lvl3.
Maybe Lady_in_black is right and Polina was even a bit underscored??
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:29 am

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tks Polosastik, this means that Adelina rly wasn't overscored, her spins were lvl4 while Liza got lvl3.
Maybe Lady_in_black is right and Polina was even a bit underscored??
Yep, mostly look like so. Liza has to work more on her spins but that a question of time I guess and Liza is younger then Adelya. Well, I want Liza to win this!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:48 am

New video showing Taka's 3A-2T-2T and his collision with Daisuke.

It seems like Pchan has been colliding with everyone and their fathers also...
scratch scratch arghhh pchan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQG7akEQGJ4

Like a Star @ heaven Dai is going for the 4F!!!!!!!

Like a Star @ heaven Adelina's SP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwH7hflshE

Like a Star @ heaven Risa's SP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Wu8NbHh9s

Like a Star @ heaven More video News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcbJizCaLYE&feature=sub


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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:56 am

It seems Adelina skated really well again. cheers I'm hoping she can win this, mostly because I want to see an in-depth interview on her in english. They did one on Liza already, but I haven't found one on Adelina. I'll be happy if she and Liza can go 1-2 in either order. Smile And I wish best of luck to my personal fav, Zijun.

Polosatik, I know you mentioned one of Adelina's fav is Mao, but has there actually be an interview/article in Russia where she mentions this?
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Prix Final 2010 - 9-12 beijing   Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:06 am

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It seems Adelina skated really well again. cheers I'm hoping she can win this, mostly because I want to see an in-depth interview on her in english. They did one on Liza already, but I haven't found one on Adelina. I'll be happy if she and Liza can go 1-2 in either order. Smile And I wish best of luck to my personal fav, Zijun.

Polosatik, I know you mentioned one of Adelina's fav is Mao, but has there actually be an interview/article in Russia where she mentions this?
I don't remember the actual interview, but that written in her profile http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010832.htm Very Happy There was an article there Liza said she admires Yuna and Mao.
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